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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3681170" data-attributes="member: 29014">Well, without houserules, Jack of All Trades 3.5 version actually doesn't have any effect on your character except to jumpstart your purchase of cross-class skills by reducing their first rank's price by 1 skill point since you now have a half rank.&nbsp; It does not actually let you use those skills as intended.&nbsp; Besides, while adding level to skill to pretend you've maxed out a skill you didn't bother to take beyond 1 rank is an effective way to be thrifty, the real danger is adding level to a maxed out skill and (at high levels when the +3 ranks at level 1 become less significant) essentially doubling your ranks.&nbsp; This makes many of the epic skill uses a cakewalk for a mid-to-high level Factotum, and by virtue of their presence in the SRD, I believe we are by default allowing them.Of course, it's quite possible that the skill checks aren't really the main thing about which to be concerned--I can only comment on what I see.&nbsp; I'll try to get my Dungeonscape from my little brother eventually.&nbsp; I never had a chance to read it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3681170, member: 29014"] Well, without houserules, Jack of All Trades 3.5 version actually doesn't have any effect on your character except to jumpstart your purchase of cross-class skills by reducing their first rank's price by 1 skill point since you now have a half rank. It does not actually let you use those skills as intended. Besides, while adding level to skill to pretend you've maxed out a skill you didn't bother to take beyond 1 rank is an effective way to be thrifty, the real danger is adding level to a maxed out skill and (at high levels when the +3 ranks at level 1 become less significant) essentially doubling your ranks. This makes many of the epic skill uses a cakewalk for a mid-to-high level Factotum, and by virtue of their presence in the SRD, I believe we are by default allowing them. Of course, it's quite possible that the skill checks aren't really the main thing about which to be concerned--I can only comment on what I see. I'll try to get my Dungeonscape from my little brother eventually. I never had a chance to read it. [/QUOTE]

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