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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7977748" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Well, of course the DM can always impose a check, but according to the text it isn't needed.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]121558[/ATTACH]</p><p>Those "requirements" are the ones I listed in my other post; i.e. adventures to discover what you need and obtain it, proficiency in a tool <em>or</em> arcana, money, and time. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Again, no checks required. DM can impose them, but that is not essential to the process or its result.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The arcana is not important to the quest, the quest is what leads you to the information or recipe you need. If arcana provided it, there would be no need to adventure for it. After all, recalling lore is not necessarily the same as discovering the recipe.</p><p></p><p>That is crafting <em>SPELL</em> scrolls, a different thing obviously, so please stick to the topic.</p><p></p><p>As per your own quote finding the lore is part of the adventure. "It is a long-term process that involves one or more adventures <strong>to track down</strong> the rare materials <strong>and the lore needed</strong> to create the item."</p><p></p><p><em>SHOW ME</em> where, under <em>crafting items</em>, Arcana is noted as part of the final step or anywhere else other than an alternative to the required tool proficiency. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7977748, member: 6987520"] Well, of course the DM can always impose a check, but according to the text it isn't needed. [ATTACH type="full" width="593px"]121558[/ATTACH] Those "requirements" are the ones I listed in my other post; i.e. adventures to discover what you need and obtain it, proficiency in a tool [I]or[/I] arcana, money, and time. :) Again, no checks required. DM can impose them, but that is not essential to the process or its result. The arcana is not important to the quest, the quest is what leads you to the information or recipe you need. If arcana provided it, there would be no need to adventure for it. After all, recalling lore is not necessarily the same as discovering the recipe. That is crafting [I]SPELL[/I] scrolls, a different thing obviously, so please stick to the topic. As per your own quote finding the lore is part of the adventure. "It is a long-term process that involves one or more adventures [B]to track down[/B] the rare materials [B]and the lore needed[/B] to create the item." [I]SHOW ME[/I] where, under [I]crafting items[/I], Arcana is noted as part of the final step or anywhere else other than an alternative to the required tool proficiency. ;) [/QUOTE]
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