Nightbreeze
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Sorry, I probably didn't notice that post. As soon as I get a reply by J.A. on a matter, I will make a full accounting and include your shares.
The Four Lands - The Colony
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Scotley
Hero
Alvar
[sblock=JA]I'll need prices and weights for heavy and light catapults, trebuchets, ballistas and something we can tow behind larger ships to carry dung. Might as well get me a price on a covered battering ram as well. Couldn't hurt to have one along in case we find ourselves attacking a fortress...[/sblock]
[sblock=JA]I'll need prices and weights for heavy and light catapults, trebuchets, ballistas and something we can tow behind larger ships to carry dung. Might as well get me a price on a covered battering ram as well. Couldn't hurt to have one along in case we find ourselves attacking a fortress...[/sblock]
Scotley
Hero
Alvar
With a sigh Alvar nods, "I've faced some similar challenges with bankers over the years. We don't seem to be a popular choice with the underwriters. Still based on what you've said about the shares, we should be in pretty good shape without the extra cash shouldn't we? We had more tonnage than we needed, so even if we have to let an extra ship or two go we'll still be well supplied."
With a sigh Alvar nods, "I've faced some similar challenges with bankers over the years. We don't seem to be a popular choice with the underwriters. Still based on what you've said about the shares, we should be in pretty good shape without the extra cash shouldn't we? We had more tonnage than we needed, so even if we have to let an extra ship or two go we'll still be well supplied."
Nightbreeze
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Well, as a matter of fact at this moment we have plenty of additional cash and cargo space. It is my impression that we cannot let a ship or two go, because they make a small fleet under the command of the same captain, and they operate together. Rather, I'd have to say that we need to invest more: these ships will be available only for getting there and for the first trip back. After that we will have to rely on other ships, as the services of these are too expensive.
The point is, that we need to invest more in something that doesn't require many workers. I mean, we could buy the necessary equipment for more mines, but if we don't have the people to work at them, what good is there for us?
Something that I happened to think is that we could invest in the construction of the harbor, and after that in the construction of a shipyard. If the company performs well, we will face a growing need for transport cargos, and it is always better to build them yourself. Besides, that would put us in dominant position on all other traders at the colony, if we operate the docks and the harbor. What do you thing?
By the way, silly me. We need to find experienced gold-diggers and gold-hunters.
The point is, that we need to invest more in something that doesn't require many workers. I mean, we could buy the necessary equipment for more mines, but if we don't have the people to work at them, what good is there for us?
Something that I happened to think is that we could invest in the construction of the harbor, and after that in the construction of a shipyard. If the company performs well, we will face a growing need for transport cargos, and it is always better to build them yourself. Besides, that would put us in dominant position on all other traders at the colony, if we operate the docks and the harbor. What do you thing?
By the way, silly me. We need to find experienced gold-diggers and gold-hunters.
Scotley
Hero
Alvar
"Yes, we will definitely need experienced people. If we plan to build ships we'll need ship builders. That sort of expertise won't come cheap. Perhaps we should devote some resources to setting up a proper recruiting operation for talented workers. While it should be easy enough to find unskilled labor, the talent we need to run the various operations will be more challenging to locate."
"As for the excess capacity, if we must use it now, then perhaps we should focus on greater redundancy. A voyage of this length is certain to have losses. There will be breakage and other unforeseen accidents in shipping and delivery as well as after operations commence. Unless there are other viable enterprises we can start without personnel then our remaining space should be given over to redundancy and perhaps some weapons and armor in case we need to arm the colonists as militia. Buy what we can get cheap and save the cash, we should fill the boats, but not waste money, as we'll need to pay for future shipments."
"Yes, we will definitely need experienced people. If we plan to build ships we'll need ship builders. That sort of expertise won't come cheap. Perhaps we should devote some resources to setting up a proper recruiting operation for talented workers. While it should be easy enough to find unskilled labor, the talent we need to run the various operations will be more challenging to locate."
"As for the excess capacity, if we must use it now, then perhaps we should focus on greater redundancy. A voyage of this length is certain to have losses. There will be breakage and other unforeseen accidents in shipping and delivery as well as after operations commence. Unless there are other viable enterprises we can start without personnel then our remaining space should be given over to redundancy and perhaps some weapons and armor in case we need to arm the colonists as militia. Buy what we can get cheap and save the cash, we should fill the boats, but not waste money, as we'll need to pay for future shipments."
Alton Kanri
OOC: Now that Neurotic has cleared up that the Academy will be independent (but friendly), Alton will invest 100,000 SP in the company at the usual 90/10 silver/gold percentages (as much for party unity as anything).
If we are thinking miners, we need to be thinking dwarves. Perhaps Conrad and Pandak will have some useful thoughts.
We could always take preserved foodstuffs. It is a 3 month trip each way, so ships trading with us will require food for the journey home.
[sblock=for JA]
FYI-Still waiting on the word from the clerics.
What sorts of weapons and armor are my fowl workers able to use? Need a price for masterwork weapons and standard armor for them.
Alton needs a ton of salt and spices for making salted eggs.
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OOC: Now that Neurotic has cleared up that the Academy will be independent (but friendly), Alton will invest 100,000 SP in the company at the usual 90/10 silver/gold percentages (as much for party unity as anything).
If we are thinking miners, we need to be thinking dwarves. Perhaps Conrad and Pandak will have some useful thoughts.
We could always take preserved foodstuffs. It is a 3 month trip each way, so ships trading with us will require food for the journey home.
[sblock=for JA]
FYI-Still waiting on the word from the clerics.
What sorts of weapons and armor are my fowl workers able to use? Need a price for masterwork weapons and standard armor for them.
Alton needs a ton of salt and spices for making salted eggs.
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Dracomeander
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Yes, we should be thinking dwarves for the mining operations.
One of the reasons Pandak and Conrad were included was to find a new home for a portion of the dwarven clans to open new mineral resources to the dwarves. Things have been moving so fast, there hasn't been time to try to make contact and arrangements with the dwarves at home. Conrad's lands in the Colony are for the establishment of the territory the dwarves will need.
Conrad is friendly to humans - for a dwarf. That is why he has been investing heavily in the developing company and colony. He and Pandak will be the primary liaisons between the dwarves and the humans. That is why Conrad's investments are going toward the Company. The sawmill that Conrad has purchased is for the colony, not himself. He has no problem adding it to his investment in the Company. The sawmill was charged at 50K silver so Conrad would add 40 silver and 10 gold shares to his investment.
One of the reasons Pandak and Conrad were included was to find a new home for a portion of the dwarven clans to open new mineral resources to the dwarves. Things have been moving so fast, there hasn't been time to try to make contact and arrangements with the dwarves at home. Conrad's lands in the Colony are for the establishment of the territory the dwarves will need.
Conrad is friendly to humans - for a dwarf. That is why he has been investing heavily in the developing company and colony. He and Pandak will be the primary liaisons between the dwarves and the humans. That is why Conrad's investments are going toward the Company. The sawmill that Conrad has purchased is for the colony, not himself. He has no problem adding it to his investment in the Company. The sawmill was charged at 50K silver so Conrad would add 40 silver and 10 gold shares to his investment.
Nightbreeze
First Post
Ok, assuming that Brightlaw retired his silver shares, we should be now this way; please control that your shares are as you intended them to be.
[sblock=shares accounting]
Golden shares: (30 Hennet, 18 Alvar, 50 Pandak, 30 Conrad, 10 Randal, 10 Alton)
Silver shares: (1000 Ederin, 200 Hennet, 192 Alvar, 90 Randal, 100 Pandak, 140 Condrad, 90 Alton, 175 duke of Sunbridge, 152 Sunbridge friends)[/sblock]
JA, in the next post I will list all the items that I purchased and didn't get a price for, so that you have them all in one place and don't have to chase around the thread.
[sblock=shares accounting]
Golden shares: (30 Hennet, 18 Alvar, 50 Pandak, 30 Conrad, 10 Randal, 10 Alton)
Silver shares: (1000 Ederin, 200 Hennet, 192 Alvar, 90 Randal, 100 Pandak, 140 Condrad, 90 Alton, 175 duke of Sunbridge, 152 Sunbridge friends)[/sblock]
JA, in the next post I will list all the items that I purchased and didn't get a price for, so that you have them all in one place and don't have to chase around the thread.
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J. Alexander
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Nightbreeze
The Bank retired it's shares but you have no idea what the Duke did. They are seperate entities often confused.
Scotley
[sblock]The price for siege equipment is 3 times book price in silver.[/sblock]
Alton
[sblock]You get a vague missive from the church promising some help in the future but for now they can only spare three acoloytes who have just barely passed their residencey.
Book price for salt and spices you want just multiple them out...same for the masterwork weapons is you just want basic masterwork types. The can most likely use a spear, staff and perhaps a sling.[/sblock]
As the dinner progresses Visount announces that there is to be a formal meeting in three days to firm up all the details.
Have i missed anything?
The Bank retired it's shares but you have no idea what the Duke did. They are seperate entities often confused.
Scotley
[sblock]The price for siege equipment is 3 times book price in silver.[/sblock]
Alton
[sblock]You get a vague missive from the church promising some help in the future but for now they can only spare three acoloytes who have just barely passed their residencey.
Book price for salt and spices you want just multiple them out...same for the masterwork weapons is you just want basic masterwork types. The can most likely use a spear, staff and perhaps a sling.[/sblock]
As the dinner progresses Visount announces that there is to be a formal meeting in three days to firm up all the details.
Have i missed anything?
Nightbreeze
First Post
J. Alexander said:
Yup, here you go:
[sblock=things to price]
30 Heavy plows
40 mature cows/oxen
120 heavy horses
60 harrows
60 seeders
200 calves (20 male, 180 female)
200 colts, mostly females
Hire 50 cowhers/grooms
900 harnesses/horse collars
food for 600 animals for 180 days.
2 river boats
200 wheels for carts
1 ton of colored glass
Also, I asked you what kind of materials we should buy here if we want to build a port there, and the price for them.
And last thing, I wanted to recruit some experienced gold-hunters/miners.[/sblock]
Besides, as far as I know, the duke Brightlaw didn't have any shares, so I just retired the 260 shares of the bank.
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