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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8683768" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>Amazingly, some of the people complaining about modern Trek's politics sometimes point to DS9 and say, 'there, <em><u>that's</u></em> how you do politics in trek without rubbing peoples' noses in it,' or similar. I wonder if they were watching the same DS9 I was. While I agree that DS9 was a high point for Trek, to cherry pick it and suggest that it was better because it did politics in a way one prefers (subtly, I guess?) is ignoring that by cherry picking, one is evading the Sturgeon's 90% culling (and goodness knows most nerd culture IPs are 3/4-9/10 junk. Star Trek actually having a fairly decent track record). </p><p></p><p>Spinning this back to Ernie and his dad's lit collection, this might be a good example (if he actually knows what is in it). 'This thing I grew up with and associate with my childhood/dad is a good example of dealing with racial issues, unlike the horrible way it is dealt with nowadays by these PeopleIDontLike.' Why? 'Well because I have fond memories of this thing. Also, by retroactively picking something that has stood the test of time (and any drek from that era was never saved), I am selectively misportraying the stuff from back then as higher quality).'</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 8683768, member: 6799660"] Amazingly, some of the people complaining about modern Trek's politics sometimes point to DS9 and say, 'there, [I][U]that's[/U][/I] how you do politics in trek without rubbing peoples' noses in it,' or similar. I wonder if they were watching the same DS9 I was. While I agree that DS9 was a high point for Trek, to cherry pick it and suggest that it was better because it did politics in a way one prefers (subtly, I guess?) is ignoring that by cherry picking, one is evading the Sturgeon's 90% culling (and goodness knows most nerd culture IPs are 3/4-9/10 junk. Star Trek actually having a fairly decent track record). Spinning this back to Ernie and his dad's lit collection, this might be a good example (if he actually knows what is in it). 'This thing I grew up with and associate with my childhood/dad is a good example of dealing with racial issues, unlike the horrible way it is dealt with nowadays by these PeopleIDontLike.' Why? 'Well because I have fond memories of this thing. Also, by retroactively picking something that has stood the test of time (and any drek from that era was never saved), I am selectively misportraying the stuff from back then as higher quality).' [/QUOTE]
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