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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 8701335" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>He and Rob talked about it for years, and according to Gary they made multiple attempts at estimating how much work and time it would need (apparently more than a YEAR by their estimation, for the two of them), and pitched it to WotC, but WotC was apparently unwilling to make an advance of more than a year's wages (basically) for the pair, which it sounds like they were asking for. He said neither his nor Rob's finances would allow them to work "on spec" based on the scale of the project. </p><p></p><p>Castle Zagyg was the alternative route that he landed on working with Jeff Talanian, and to the best of my knowledge work on that was only halted because of a) Gary's health decline, b) his actual death, and c) Gail revoking the license to Troll Lord and blocking Jeff Talanian from completing it based on his discussions with Gary.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In Hollywood at King Vidor's old mansion when Gary was living it up as a millionaire trying to get a D&D movie made (and, tbf, successfully getting a cartoon made). </p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, that there's an actual old-school SF community, including folks doing regular fan magazines, Star Frontiersman and Frontier Explorer, which WotC gave permission/authorization to, I understand. But that community is focused on the original game, and SF:NG is a complete reboot. No doubt some of that community had interest, with the usual spark from Ernie's name being attached for nostalgia value, but as you say, this beta doc is repellant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 8701335, member: 7026594"] He and Rob talked about it for years, and according to Gary they made multiple attempts at estimating how much work and time it would need (apparently more than a YEAR by their estimation, for the two of them), and pitched it to WotC, but WotC was apparently unwilling to make an advance of more than a year's wages (basically) for the pair, which it sounds like they were asking for. He said neither his nor Rob's finances would allow them to work "on spec" based on the scale of the project. Castle Zagyg was the alternative route that he landed on working with Jeff Talanian, and to the best of my knowledge work on that was only halted because of a) Gary's health decline, b) his actual death, and c) Gail revoking the license to Troll Lord and blocking Jeff Talanian from completing it based on his discussions with Gary. In Hollywood at King Vidor's old mansion when Gary was living it up as a millionaire trying to get a D&D movie made (and, tbf, successfully getting a cartoon made). The thing is, that there's an actual old-school SF community, including folks doing regular fan magazines, Star Frontiersman and Frontier Explorer, which WotC gave permission/authorization to, I understand. But that community is focused on the original game, and SF:NG is a complete reboot. No doubt some of that community had interest, with the usual spark from Ernie's name being attached for nostalgia value, but as you say, this beta doc is repellant. [/QUOTE]
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