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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8708803" data-attributes="member: 19857">I believe that this is correct.  And it's also why when Fred Hicks grabbed the trademark and was thinking about doing something with it he immediately dropped those ideas when he saw that Wizards had started selling Star Frontiers on Drive Thru again (they'd taking it offline for a while - I think during the 4e decision against having any kind of PDFs for sale because the folks in charge just couldn't stop shooting themselves in the foot over stuff like that).  Because he understood that that meant that Wizards could legitimately say "we've been selling a game named Star Frontiers so we have prior use on the mark".LaNasa's plan for use of the trademark was dead in the water when he snagged the mark registration because Wizards had been using it for years by that point to sell PDFs.  It's the same with the various TSR marks he is trying to claim are abandoned - they're all over the books that Wizards is selling on DriveThru.(I think from what I've pieced together that LaNasa somehow thinks that selling PDFs somehow doesn't count for use of a trademark and that it only counts if its on something physical - which is why he needed a boxed set and a print book. And so their sales of PDFs on DriveThru don't count.  Also that POD doesn't count and it only counts if you do an offset print run, since these books are also available POD.  I don't know if he really thinks that or thinks he can get a judge who is sufficiently out of touch to rule that way but either way it's nuts.)</blockquote>

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