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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8725242" data-attributes="member: 6801228">And no one said they were made with hate in their hearts. Just like no one thinks Peter Pan or Dumbo was made with hate in hearts of Disney. But, the part of Anonymous Joe's story where he sat down with his kids? Where they went over the mistakes he made in trying to create worlds he didn't understand? That's why we have looked back at Al-Qadim and Oriental Adventures and said "You know what, they made something with good intent. But they made mistakes. Mistakes we don't find acceptable today, and we have to acknowledge that, because only when working together with the people who do understand the material, and ironing out those mistakes, can we make something truly amazing." But much like a homebrewer clutching their "magnum opus" and refusing to allow anyone to criticize it, many people can't stand the idea that mistakes were once made, and that they should be acknowledged. And that doesn't help anyone make a better version.</blockquote>