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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 8777787" data-attributes="member: 6804070">First, often times when people say &quot;automatic&quot; they include paddle shifters (i.e. clutchless shifters) in the automatic &quot;pool&quot;. Assuming this discussion does similarly, then...As a racing enthuasist and amatuer track car driver (i.e. I have a &quot;HPDE license&quot;, not a &quot;racing license&quot;) this is not really accurate. You will find that the professional race car drivers (like F1, Indy, etc) all use automatic paddle shift transmissions (clutchless) if their rules allow it. And even &quot;us&quot; amateurs prefer paddle shifters if we can afford it. This is because race car drivers care about speed and performance, and a good paddle shifter can shift gears in half or less than time than a good driver can shift manual. And that means more time under power which means faster lap times. And you might be surprised at the costs some folks will go to get 0.05 second faster lap times.Even in non-competition street legal cars, paddle shifters are generally faster than a good driver with a stick shift. <a href="https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a15248/manual-vs-paddle-shift-gearboxes/#:~:text=Witness%20the%20shift%20times%20of,were%20closer%20to%200.40%20sec" target="_blank">Manual vs Paddle-Shift Gearboxes</a>.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 8777787, member: 6804070"] First, often times when people say "automatic" they include paddle shifters (i.e. clutchless shifters) in the automatic "pool". Assuming this discussion does similarly, then... As a racing enthuasist and amatuer track car driver (i.e. I have a "HPDE license", not a "racing license") this is not really accurate. You will find that the professional race car drivers (like F1, Indy, etc) all use automatic paddle shift transmissions (clutchless) if their rules allow it. And even "us" amateurs prefer paddle shifters if we can afford it. This is because race car drivers care about speed and performance, and a good paddle shifter can shift gears in half or less than time than a good driver can shift manual. And that means more time under power which means faster lap times. And you might be surprised at the costs some folks will go to get 0.05 second faster lap times. Even in non-competition street legal cars, paddle shifters are generally faster than a good driver with a stick shift. [URL='https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a15248/manual-vs-paddle-shift-gearboxes/#:~:text=Witness%20the%20shift%20times%20of,were%20closer%20to%200.40%20sec']Manual vs Paddle-Shift Gearboxes[/URL]. [/QUOTE]

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