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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8921494" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>Does everyone remember when Vince "TheEvilDM" Florio made a public video claiming to disavow Justin Lanasa and NuTSR, claiming to have "no association with him" and "once the module [Cult of Abaddon] was finally released, I was done"? It happened in July: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-full-glorious-history-of-nutsr.684697/page-144#post-8689560" target="_blank">TSR - The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR</a></p><p></p><p>Well, a funny thing happened last week. It seems some unknown, anonymous person emailed Vince an unreleased copy of Those Pesky Goblinz. So Vince decided to share the leak on his Friday live stream:</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Hiding in-line video"][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.youtube.com/live/wVih1_60cdQ?feature=share[/URL][/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Vince had nothing negative to say about the game. In fact, he seemed to like the concept a lot. And Vince was happily surprised to learn that the game includes a starter module:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]274170[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]274171[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Yes, the starter module for Goblinz is a sequel to the Cult of Abaddon module that Vince gave to NuTSR. Featuring the town of [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]. And even uses some of Vince's original maps. Vince was completely content with this, and was eager to learn more about the game.</p><p></p><p>In a surprise visit during the live stream, the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum youtube account stopped by and asked Vince how he got a copy of this game (and then left immediately). It was a clearly a night of unexpected revelations.</p><p></p><p>Of course, all of this is a complete facade. I'm calling it out as total BS. Vince is obviously working with Justin again. Vince is clearly promoting NuTSR's work. He even shared a link in the chat to where you can purchase Those Pesky Goblinz on Amazon. Vince is letting Justin use his content, his map, and his name in NuTSR's new game. The info obviously came from Justin himself. The "leak", the video, and the surprise DHSM appearance were all planned. I honestly thought Vince's apology last year was honest, and that he meant it when he said he was done working with NuTSR. I guess not.</p><p></p><p>As for the "leak" itself, there is some other interesting information here. Most importantly, it looks like the real publishing work (design & layout, printing, selling on Amazon, etc) is all being handled by Mick McArt. That's why the product can be purchased on Amazon but not the DHSM website. The product still maintains the "TSR Hobbies" logo, and features "TSR" on the inside in a couple of places, but contains relatively few references to NuTSR. Justin Lanasa is credited as the sole author. This is pure speculation, but I suspect Lanasa thinks that if he plays his cards right and minimizes references to TSR he will be able to maintain ownership of this product after the lawsuit is settled. </p><p></p><p>The book has an "Ernie Gygax approved" logo and the same preface Ernie wrote in 2008 that's popped up in a couple of other places. The "Pivot Points" mechanic shown in the video comes from Ernie's GP Adventures company and is featured in his Hobby Shop Dungeon and Marmorial Tomb products. Benoist Poire may be angry to learn that it's showing up hear. Beyond that, it seems Ernie probably didn't have too much input. Also, somehow, Jim Holloway has an artist credit. If someone knows how to contact his estate, they probably need to be informed that his name is being used to promote this (and Star Frontiers New Genesis).</p><p></p><p>The final thing I will point out is that Those Pesky Goblinz is advertised as a complete RPG, but it clearly isn't. At only 48 pages (including a module), it's obviously assuming that people will be using some other RPG system to run it (ostensibly AD&D, or some variant thereof).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 8921494, member: 7808"] Does everyone remember when Vince "TheEvilDM" Florio made a public video claiming to disavow Justin Lanasa and NuTSR, claiming to have "no association with him" and "once the module [Cult of Abaddon] was finally released, I was done"? It happened in July: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-full-glorious-history-of-nutsr.684697/page-144#post-8689560']TSR - The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR[/URL] Well, a funny thing happened last week. It seems some unknown, anonymous person emailed Vince an unreleased copy of Those Pesky Goblinz. So Vince decided to share the leak on his Friday live stream: [SPOILER="Hiding in-line video"][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.youtube.com/live/wVih1_60cdQ?feature=share[/URL][/SPOILER] Vince had nothing negative to say about the game. In fact, he seemed to like the concept a lot. And Vince was happily surprised to learn that the game includes a starter module: [ATTACH type="full" width="507px" alt="GoblinzRaid1.JPG"]274170[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="509px" alt="GoblinzRaid2.JPG"]274171[/ATTACH] Yes, the starter module for Goblinz is a sequel to the Cult of Abaddon module that Vince gave to NuTSR. Featuring the town of [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]. And even uses some of Vince's original maps. Vince was completely content with this, and was eager to learn more about the game. In a surprise visit during the live stream, the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum youtube account stopped by and asked Vince how he got a copy of this game (and then left immediately). It was a clearly a night of unexpected revelations. Of course, all of this is a complete facade. I'm calling it out as total BS. Vince is obviously working with Justin again. Vince is clearly promoting NuTSR's work. He even shared a link in the chat to where you can purchase Those Pesky Goblinz on Amazon. Vince is letting Justin use his content, his map, and his name in NuTSR's new game. The info obviously came from Justin himself. The "leak", the video, and the surprise DHSM appearance were all planned. I honestly thought Vince's apology last year was honest, and that he meant it when he said he was done working with NuTSR. I guess not. As for the "leak" itself, there is some other interesting information here. Most importantly, it looks like the real publishing work (design & layout, printing, selling on Amazon, etc) is all being handled by Mick McArt. That's why the product can be purchased on Amazon but not the DHSM website. The product still maintains the "TSR Hobbies" logo, and features "TSR" on the inside in a couple of places, but contains relatively few references to NuTSR. Justin Lanasa is credited as the sole author. This is pure speculation, but I suspect Lanasa thinks that if he plays his cards right and minimizes references to TSR he will be able to maintain ownership of this product after the lawsuit is settled. The book has an "Ernie Gygax approved" logo and the same preface Ernie wrote in 2008 that's popped up in a couple of other places. The "Pivot Points" mechanic shown in the video comes from Ernie's GP Adventures company and is featured in his Hobby Shop Dungeon and Marmorial Tomb products. Benoist Poire may be angry to learn that it's showing up hear. Beyond that, it seems Ernie probably didn't have too much input. Also, somehow, Jim Holloway has an artist credit. If someone knows how to contact his estate, they probably need to be informed that his name is being used to promote this (and Star Frontiers New Genesis). The final thing I will point out is that Those Pesky Goblinz is advertised as a complete RPG, but it clearly isn't. At only 48 pages (including a module), it's obviously assuming that people will be using some other RPG system to run it (ostensibly AD&D, or some variant thereof). [/QUOTE]
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