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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8969502" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Again, with the assumptions.</p><p></p><p>I've told you what happened. He made a post, and it was bombarded with people going into him about why he was banned and what behavior he did to cause it, rather than to address Frank's point of the post: to show his displeasure at being used in a media piece for a convention he was banned from.</p><p></p><p>But that's missing the greater point. This is his <em>personal </em>FB account. He's absolutely allowed to make posts, delete them, and make others saying he doesn't want comments. I see people do that all the time. Especially when they are venting. I see vague posts all the time. None of those times makes the poster arrogant or someone who "doesn't want to tell their side but to stir up ****". Frankly, those are uncalled for statements. Whether you like him or hate him, it's his right to do so and enjoy same thing everyone else does on our social media pages.</p><p></p><p>Frank being mistaken where that image came from is not him "intentionally obfuscating facts to stir up **** on social media". If anything, he realized after people pointed out to him it was the news station and not Luke that used that image so he took it down for not being accurate. Which is what we would want right? Take down a post after you realized you made a mistake? I really wish you'd stop making pejorative assumptions about people when you don't know the context or full story.</p><p></p><p>But this leads to my greater frustration with all of this. This thread was created with the purpose of tracking NuTSR's woes. Whether that be legal woes, or TSR Con, or his non-existing products. But it's turned into much more than that. It's turned into a half dozen people cyberstalking not just Justin, but anyone he's ever worked for to look for <em>anything </em>to use as a "gotcha!" moment. It's low hanging fruit at best (how many posts do we have here with people going on about a spelling error Justin made?). And that's turned into the same half dozen people using this thread as a sounding board to do the same "gotcha!" stuff with anyone in the industry they don't like. This is a prime example. What does Frank have to do with nuTSR? The only reason this thread and comments about Justin and Dave and others continues to exist is because everyone agrees they are pretty horrible people. But making things up about people, even horrible people, doesn't make you (general you) much better and you certainly don't have any higher moral ground to stand on. Pettiness against horrible people is still pettiness. </p><p></p><p>But here's the really big thing that bothers me. I can understand why folks like [USER=15047]@tenkar[/USER] , [USER=7034739]@GraphPaper Architect[/USER] , [USER=7036217]@Jedion357[/USER] or Don Semora got really upset because they and their families were attacked personally. But let's have some real talk here. There are folks who have gotten more outraged than the <em>actual </em>subjects of LaNasa's attacks who have nothing to do with any of it. Including folks I won't name who have literally begged Justin to attack them? Why? Why would anyone want to be brought into this mess if they weren't already? Attention? Some sort of weird cred? That doesn't seem to be healthy.</p><p></p><p>Frankly I'd like to see [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] or [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] or [USER=19675]@Dannyalcatraz[/USER] come in and shut this thread down unless it has something to do with nuTSR or the lawsuit. Nothing else is relevant. And it's making people I otherwise respect act in petty ways.</p><p></p><p>What's that saying? You can't work with poo all day without getting some on you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8969502, member: 15700"] Again, with the assumptions. I've told you what happened. He made a post, and it was bombarded with people going into him about why he was banned and what behavior he did to cause it, rather than to address Frank's point of the post: to show his displeasure at being used in a media piece for a convention he was banned from. But that's missing the greater point. This is his [I]personal [/I]FB account. He's absolutely allowed to make posts, delete them, and make others saying he doesn't want comments. I see people do that all the time. Especially when they are venting. I see vague posts all the time. None of those times makes the poster arrogant or someone who "doesn't want to tell their side but to stir up ****". Frankly, those are uncalled for statements. Whether you like him or hate him, it's his right to do so and enjoy same thing everyone else does on our social media pages. Frank being mistaken where that image came from is not him "intentionally obfuscating facts to stir up **** on social media". If anything, he realized after people pointed out to him it was the news station and not Luke that used that image so he took it down for not being accurate. Which is what we would want right? Take down a post after you realized you made a mistake? I really wish you'd stop making pejorative assumptions about people when you don't know the context or full story. But this leads to my greater frustration with all of this. This thread was created with the purpose of tracking NuTSR's woes. Whether that be legal woes, or TSR Con, or his non-existing products. But it's turned into much more than that. It's turned into a half dozen people cyberstalking not just Justin, but anyone he's ever worked for to look for [I]anything [/I]to use as a "gotcha!" moment. It's low hanging fruit at best (how many posts do we have here with people going on about a spelling error Justin made?). And that's turned into the same half dozen people using this thread as a sounding board to do the same "gotcha!" stuff with anyone in the industry they don't like. This is a prime example. What does Frank have to do with nuTSR? The only reason this thread and comments about Justin and Dave and others continues to exist is because everyone agrees they are pretty horrible people. But making things up about people, even horrible people, doesn't make you (general you) much better and you certainly don't have any higher moral ground to stand on. Pettiness against horrible people is still pettiness. But here's the really big thing that bothers me. I can understand why folks like [USER=15047]@tenkar[/USER] , [USER=7034739]@GraphPaper Architect[/USER] , [USER=7036217]@Jedion357[/USER] or Don Semora got really upset because they and their families were attacked personally. But let's have some real talk here. There are folks who have gotten more outraged than the [I]actual [/I]subjects of LaNasa's attacks who have nothing to do with any of it. Including folks I won't name who have literally begged Justin to attack them? Why? Why would anyone want to be brought into this mess if they weren't already? Attention? Some sort of weird cred? That doesn't seem to be healthy. Frankly I'd like to see [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] or [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] or [USER=19675]@Dannyalcatraz[/USER] come in and shut this thread down unless it has something to do with nuTSR or the lawsuit. Nothing else is relevant. And it's making people I otherwise respect act in petty ways. What's that saying? You can't work with poo all day without getting some on you. [/QUOTE]
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