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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wincenworks" data-source="post: 9030873" data-attributes="member: 7038835">That was already settled in the US <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute" target="_blank">thanks to PETA trying to use copyright to backdoor in giving human rights to animals</a>.Only a human may create art.  The AI is not a human, it is a tool.That AI art generators operate on prompts means that the only thing that could foreseeably be copyrighted is the prompt, which is almost certainly never going to be unique and complex enough to attract copyright.All of the artistic decisions in AI art are made algorithmically, therefore are matters of fact and data, and cannot attract copyright.  Only human decisions can.  There is no foreseeable future where AI attracts copyright on its own, only the changes made by the humans do.So in this case, what OSR Games LLC has "copyrighted" is the placement of the text overlay on the top - which is kind of hilarious since it implies that he thinks someone else wants to make a sign for his business.Well, one, that it's a human who operates on a lifetime of information, free will, etc.  The computer doesn't do any of that, it doesn't understand anything, especially the concepts of the art that it is.  It doesn't know what a person is, what ramen is, what eating is - it just scans information that is loaded into it and interpreted for it by humans and then generates something that it thinks matches the patterns.This is why AI art continually generates highly polished gibberish, instead of varying degrees of technical understanding work that is based around a concept - something with AI "artists" are struggling with now that they've been trying for long enough to get it to create a specific image and are finding the AI can't approach it because it doesn't understand the concepts, and can't enter into a conversation with you.This weird "it's like a person" rhetoric only makes sense if you want to also assign pseudo-human status to:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">autocorrect</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">spell check</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">this forum software</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rhoombas</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">spreadsheets</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">calculators</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">light sensitive switches</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">rice cookers</li> </ul>The delusion that something which does something we associate with a human (even something as looking like it has eyes) is alive/human etc is an ancient one based in our attempts to build narratives that make sense of the patterns we observe, but the AI art generator is no more an artist than a pet rock is a listener.This particular delusion compounds because people assume that if an image is created, and its complicated - it must attract copyright.  This is the general rule, but there are many exceptions such as if you recreate something that is already in public domain, do it under circumstances were you agree not to apply a copyright (part of an open license) etc.  AI art has created a whole new branch of this because they've made an algorithm which interprets data to make an image.Thus is can violate copyright, but it can't create images that attract copyright and more than the contents of the periodic table can.Not unlike how it seems Justin thought he could bypass the copyrights on the images that make up TSR trademarks by drawing copies of TSR The Game Wizards logo and the Mike Bell Lizard Man - deliberately trying to recreate the images as faithfully as possible and then later hiring someone who can draw (reminder, Justin is supposed to be a tattoo artist) to make the current one which is a lovely homage work by Diesel, but is definitely <a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn90124788&docId=DRW20200823055309#docIndex=23&page=1" target="_blank">not the image Justin submitted to the Trademark office</a>.[ATTACH=full]286144[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

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