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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9037129" data-attributes="member: 7808">I have an actual piece of news, for a change. Jeff Leason isn't very active on social media, but he did a podcast at ICCC a couple of days ago.  You can watch it here:[URL unfurl="true"]https://fb.watch/kWsvpxAIdK/[/URL]Here's my summary of points relevant to this thread.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When he gives his background and history in the gaming industry, he covers his time at the original TSR and Mayfair Games, but doesn't make any mention NuTSR.  This probably the only time when he does himself any favors.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When asked about the DHSM (~14:10) he says that he was "lucky enough to meet a random guy at Garycon" that bought the building.  It's extremely pointed that he does not mention Justin Lanasa or Ernie Gygax by name.  Overall, he is very enthusiastic about the museum.  He has no second thoughts about it, makes no mention of any of the controversies surrounding it, and is happy to promote it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He pointedly notes that there are three "partners" at the museum.  We know this to be Jeff, Justin, and Erinie.  That is in line with Ernie's earlier interview about the museum where he mentioned the trio all owning "shares" of the museum.  However, this is in direct conflict with Justin's assertions in the court case against WotC, where the filings state that Justin is the sole owner and manager of the museum.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Finally, and by far the worst part, Jeff is asked one last question by the interviewer about Jeff's opinion of the OGL drama (~20:00).  Jeff's response is a barely sensical rant where he calls WotC "woke", makes it seem like WotC's changes to avoid racism somehow victimize Jeff as a racist, and brings up gender issues for no reason whatsoever.  Despite Jeff's inexplicable need to bring up these topics, I don't think he ever actually addresses the OGL.  If there was any question of whether Jeff believed all the "anti-woke" bile that has been spewed on the DHSM social media, I think this is pretty solid proof that he's on board with it.  It seems like he's beliefs are fairly in step with Lanasa's.</li> </ul>Overall, this whole thing solidifies my view that Jeff Leason should be considered an enabler, not a victim, in the NuTSR saga.  Also, it's worth noting that when he isn't talking about the DHSM, he actually has a lot of really interesting and entertaining stories about the original TSR and folks like Gary Gygax.  I can imagine that he probably does a very good job of hosting the museum and giving history lessons.  He really seems to enjoy talking about it, and except for the points where he goes off the rails it seems like he would be a great guy to spend time with and chat about RPGs.  It's a shame that all that has to be tainted with the anti-inclusive BS that surrounds NuTSR.As a side note, the other guy on stage with him is Dave O'Brien.  Dave has been a very quiet supporter of the NuTSR for a long time.  He helped get the museum built (shown in earlier videos that are now gone) and is the guy who manages the Yelp and TripAdvisor pages for the DHSM, trying to fight bad reviews.</blockquote>

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