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<blockquote data-quote="Wincenworks" data-source="post: 9066023" data-attributes="member: 7038835"><p>An important thing to understand with all this is: The veil is pierced <em>when a judge says its pierced</em>.</p><p></p><p>Part of the reason that it doesn't happen often is it is rarely worth the time, expense and drama of a court case. Usually people who do the kind of thing it warrants are either too pathetic to make it worth it, or already naughty word (debt, incarceration, death or disappearance) and in the few cases outside of that - people settle.</p><p></p><p>Justin's business interests and his finances seem to be a huge mess, and it would not surprise me at all to learn that he's got a mess of loans, joint ventures, partnerships and trusts that will take a team of forensic accountants armed with chainsaws a year to decipher - or that Justin himself isn't sure on what he does or doesn't own.</p><p></p><p>Generally speaking if one intended to count on limited liability for a defence, one should keep the distinctions as clear as possible. It is pretty clear that Justin has never done that. His tattoo shop only registered and LLC a few years ago, even though he's supposedly been running it for forever.</p><p></p><p>A big factor here, that works more against him in the here and now - is that this nonsense also diminishes the credibility of his suit, his defence in the counter-suit etc because... he's obviously not acting as a serious business trying to publish old school games and revive the legacy of TSR Inc. He's acting like the kind of weirdo buffoon who would register some trademarks purely for trolling purposes and also hire a Nazi to write a book with "Negro" as a race - and who operated independently on his own name rather than specifically through limited liability companies.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And this is what I mean by "business" ESPN is a cable company so providing entertainment, including commenting on other entertainment etc is their stated business and it serves their business interests.</p><p></p><p>Promoting random venues in North Carolina with a link and no explanation how it relates to anything, is not really DHSM's business or serving their business interests. It's inconsistent with the narrative of the business, and even though it's mild discrepancy - many, many of them add up over time and contribute to the overall look.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wincenworks, post: 9066023, member: 7038835"] An important thing to understand with all this is: The veil is pierced [I]when a judge says its pierced[/I]. Part of the reason that it doesn't happen often is it is rarely worth the time, expense and drama of a court case. Usually people who do the kind of thing it warrants are either too pathetic to make it worth it, or already naughty word (debt, incarceration, death or disappearance) and in the few cases outside of that - people settle. Justin's business interests and his finances seem to be a huge mess, and it would not surprise me at all to learn that he's got a mess of loans, joint ventures, partnerships and trusts that will take a team of forensic accountants armed with chainsaws a year to decipher - or that Justin himself isn't sure on what he does or doesn't own. Generally speaking if one intended to count on limited liability for a defence, one should keep the distinctions as clear as possible. It is pretty clear that Justin has never done that. His tattoo shop only registered and LLC a few years ago, even though he's supposedly been running it for forever. A big factor here, that works more against him in the here and now - is that this nonsense also diminishes the credibility of his suit, his defence in the counter-suit etc because... he's obviously not acting as a serious business trying to publish old school games and revive the legacy of TSR Inc. He's acting like the kind of weirdo buffoon who would register some trademarks purely for trolling purposes and also hire a Nazi to write a book with "Negro" as a race - and who operated independently on his own name rather than specifically through limited liability companies. And this is what I mean by "business" ESPN is a cable company so providing entertainment, including commenting on other entertainment etc is their stated business and it serves their business interests. Promoting random venues in North Carolina with a link and no explanation how it relates to anything, is not really DHSM's business or serving their business interests. It's inconsistent with the narrative of the business, and even though it's mild discrepancy - many, many of them add up over time and contribute to the overall look. [/QUOTE]
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