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<blockquote data-quote="Wincenworks" data-source="post: 9159523" data-attributes="member: 7038835"><p>This is part of the "technically correct" part.</p><p></p><p>Defamation does not cover pejoratives in the Common or Civil Law world. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression (depending on your jurisdiction) allow for people to have opinions even if those opinions are unreasonable or detached from reality. (Assuming the platform I used to express myself is okay with it). I can give my deductions provided I show my working and do not mislead people as to my basis for it.</p><p></p><p>What defamation does cover is statements of "fact" that are untrue, misleading, or inappropriate. I don't have to like Justin, I don't have to be quiet about how I don't like him - but I can't tell people that he did things I know he didn't, I can't share information and lie through omission to lead people to believe false narratives about him, and I can't share information that I don't have permission or reasonable right to.</p><p></p><p>This misunderstanding is often leveraged by reactionary people who will go on their tirades and shouting sessions, spreading their conspiracy theories under opinion, etc while people think they are not entitled to call them out on it. Westboro Baptist Church was infamous for essentially funding their operation through assault lawsuits and avoiding defamation through their rights to assembly, speech, etc.</p><p></p><p>Nobody owes Justin a clean reputation, he is entitled to the same reputation and legacy as anyone else - the one he builds for himself, regardless of how he feels about it in hindsight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wincenworks, post: 9159523, member: 7038835"] This is part of the "technically correct" part. Defamation does not cover pejoratives in the Common or Civil Law world. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression (depending on your jurisdiction) allow for people to have opinions even if those opinions are unreasonable or detached from reality. (Assuming the platform I used to express myself is okay with it). I can give my deductions provided I show my working and do not mislead people as to my basis for it. What defamation does cover is statements of "fact" that are untrue, misleading, or inappropriate. I don't have to like Justin, I don't have to be quiet about how I don't like him - but I can't tell people that he did things I know he didn't, I can't share information and lie through omission to lead people to believe false narratives about him, and I can't share information that I don't have permission or reasonable right to. This misunderstanding is often leveraged by reactionary people who will go on their tirades and shouting sessions, spreading their conspiracy theories under opinion, etc while people think they are not entitled to call them out on it. Westboro Baptist Church was infamous for essentially funding their operation through assault lawsuits and avoiding defamation through their rights to assembly, speech, etc. Nobody owes Justin a clean reputation, he is entitled to the same reputation and legacy as anyone else - the one he builds for himself, regardless of how he feels about it in hindsight. [/QUOTE]
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