Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9282102" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>After a cursory read through of Those Pesky Orcz, here’s what I would like to call the “Worst of the Worst”. Some of the videos that people have shared cover some of these points, but I have a few to add. Trigger warnings: Racism, sexism, SA, murder, transphobia, and probably a few things I’m forgetting.</p><p></p><p>I’m not going to waste time complaining about all the blatant editing errors, image snafus, typos, and other basic problems. Just assume that the book is written at the same basic level that we’ve seen from Lanasa and Dave Johnson. I will call out one particularly egregious error, where they still used the name “TSR Con” and the old web address for the FB page in their advertisement.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349790[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Moving onto the real meat, let’s start by noting the references to real people. The book is written by Justin Lanasa and Dave Johnson, edited by Jeff Leason and Mick McArt, and approved (and foreword written) by Ernie Gygax.</p><p></p><p>The Gygax name is referenced – “Pivot Points” are from Ernie and Benoist Poire.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349791[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>“Tensor” is also name dropped. And Lanasa names a ring, a magic key, and a spell after himself.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349792[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[USER=7036217]@Jedion357[/USER] a.k.a. Table Top Taproom also gets called out by Dave Johnson. That's his last name spelled backwards. After this, he loses an eye and a hand and leads the “One-handed Left Eye Army”.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349793[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Also, let’s get this out of the way: The new company logo features lightning bolts that look a bit like SS. The book suspiciously has 88 pages. Are these coincidences? I don’t think so, but I can’t prove they’re not. Furthermore, it’s clear the book is not family friendly. There are way too many references to “breeding”, urine, feces, prostitution, and other adult themes. That’s not a sin by itself, but it's marketed as a game "that the whole family can enjoy”, which just isn’t appropriate.</p><p></p><p>The most recurring problematic content in the book is rampant discrimination against women. To start, the game outright says that women are the lowest caste of orc.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content"]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349794[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349795[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Also, it’s worth noting that in the adventure module, all the shopkeepers and innkeepers are male, most of them named, but their spouses are simple noted as their “wives”. And then there’s all of this. Presented without comment.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content, SA, slavery"]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349796[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349797[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349798[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349799[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>The game adds unnecessary sexist and homophobic content in their random “Nightly Visitors” table.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content"]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349800[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349801[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>They got in at least one anti-trans jab.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content - Anti-trans"]</p><p></p><p>Referring to a sex change as a punishment one may "suffer".</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349804[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>And there's some racism.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content - Racism"]</p><p></p><p>They refer to half-orcs as "unholy mongrels"</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349802[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>To end on a lighter note, I will also mention that this book contains the worst riddle I have ever seen in a published module.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]349803[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>So, there you have it. I'm sure there's more that I've missed. But that's all I can handle in one sitting.</p><p></p><p>In conclusion: Shame.</p><p>Shame on you, Justin Lanasa.</p><p>Shame on you, Dave Johnson.</p><p>Shame on you, Mick McArt.</p><p>Shame on you, Ernie Gygax.</p><p>Shame on you, Jeff Leason.</p><p>Shame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 9282102, member: 7808"] After a cursory read through of Those Pesky Orcz, here’s what I would like to call the “Worst of the Worst”. Some of the videos that people have shared cover some of these points, but I have a few to add. Trigger warnings: Racism, sexism, SA, murder, transphobia, and probably a few things I’m forgetting. I’m not going to waste time complaining about all the blatant editing errors, image snafus, typos, and other basic problems. Just assume that the book is written at the same basic level that we’ve seen from Lanasa and Dave Johnson. I will call out one particularly egregious error, where they still used the name “TSR Con” and the old web address for the FB page in their advertisement. [ATTACH type="full" width="580px" alt="tsrcon.jpg"]349790[/ATTACH] Moving onto the real meat, let’s start by noting the references to real people. The book is written by Justin Lanasa and Dave Johnson, edited by Jeff Leason and Mick McArt, and approved (and foreword written) by Ernie Gygax. The Gygax name is referenced – “Pivot Points” are from Ernie and Benoist Poire. [ATTACH type="full" width="577px" alt="pivot.jpg"]349791[/ATTACH] “Tensor” is also name dropped. And Lanasa names a ring, a magic key, and a spell after himself. [ATTACH type="full" alt="tensor.jpg"]349792[/ATTACH] [USER=7036217]@Jedion357[/USER] a.k.a. Table Top Taproom also gets called out by Dave Johnson. That's his last name spelled backwards. After this, he loses an eye and a hand and leads the “One-handed Left Eye Army”. [ATTACH type="full" width="576px" alt="tluaerrev.jpg"]349793[/ATTACH] Also, let’s get this out of the way: The new company logo features lightning bolts that look a bit like SS. The book suspiciously has 88 pages. Are these coincidences? I don’t think so, but I can’t prove they’re not. Furthermore, it’s clear the book is not family friendly. There are way too many references to “breeding”, urine, feces, prostitution, and other adult themes. That’s not a sin by itself, but it's marketed as a game "that the whole family can enjoy”, which just isn’t appropriate. The most recurring problematic content in the book is rampant discrimination against women. To start, the game outright says that women are the lowest caste of orc. [SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content"] [ATTACH type="full" width="578px" alt="womencaste.jpg"]349794[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="581px" alt="orczwomen1.jpg"]349795[/ATTACH] [/SPOILER] Also, it’s worth noting that in the adventure module, all the shopkeepers and innkeepers are male, most of them named, but their spouses are simple noted as their “wives”. And then there’s all of this. Presented without comment. [SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content, SA, slavery"] [ATTACH type="full" width="577px" alt="succubus1.jpg"]349796[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="581px" alt="femaleslaves.jpg"]349797[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="582px" alt="cookhouse.jpg"]349798[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="585px" alt="sacrifice.jpg"]349799[/ATTACH] [/SPOILER] The game adds unnecessary sexist and homophobic content in their random “Nightly Visitors” table. [SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content"] [ATTACH type="full" width="581px" alt="random1.jpg"]349800[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="584px" alt="random2.jpg"]349801[/ATTACH] [/SPOILER] They got in at least one anti-trans jab. [SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content - Anti-trans"] Referring to a sex change as a punishment one may "suffer". [ATTACH type="full" width="592px" alt="speakgod.jpg"]349804[/ATTACH] [/SPOILER] And there's some racism. [SPOILER="Anti-inclusive content - Racism"] They refer to half-orcs as "unholy mongrels" [ATTACH type="full" width="596px" alt="mongrels.jpg"]349802[/ATTACH] [/SPOILER] To end on a lighter note, I will also mention that this book contains the worst riddle I have ever seen in a published module. [ATTACH type="full" width="606px" alt="riddle.jpg"]349803[/ATTACH] So, there you have it. I'm sure there's more that I've missed. But that's all I can handle in one sitting. In conclusion: Shame. Shame on you, Justin Lanasa. Shame on you, Dave Johnson. Shame on you, Mick McArt. Shame on you, Ernie Gygax. Shame on you, Jeff Leason. Shame. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR
Top