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<blockquote data-quote="Wincenworks" data-source="post: 9282107" data-attributes="member: 7038835"><p>Copy of Those Pesky Orcz arrived today and looking through it, it's worse than I expected</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Huge parts of it are literally copy-pasted from <em>Goblinz: Those Pesky Goblinz. A Role-Playing Game by Justin LaNasa</em>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">First hilarious editing error (good work Mick) is on page 7 (effectively the first page of content), where it directs you to page 10 for content that appears on page 8.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The term OM is used throughout the book with the assumption that you know an Orc Master is the GM/DM substitute.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The vandalism of Mike Carr's work has been repeated too, so now the magic pools were goblin/orc urine... Justin sure seems to have a thing for being made to drink urine... and sharing that with the public</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The meteor dagger has had it's original wording replaced with Low LaNasian word salad, and is referred to as MSchultz dagger like you're supposed to know what that means.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Module is credited to Dave Johnson and Justin LaNasa, but I think that's just because ChatGPT can't demand credit</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dave doesn't know the difference between Foreword and Forward... nor does he understand how quotation marks work</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Module is clearly unaware of the establishment of OM, and talks about the Game Master</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The adventure is introduced with a weird bit of (likely AI generated) prose that is about a female orc ranger (a concept completely inconsistent with the setup in the book) then tells you of the existence of a crew of orcs... who are not you or her. Rest of the module seems to assume she is with you at points.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The layout of the map is completely chaotic and nonsensical as anything but a single player "choose your own adventure" game ala ye olde Fighting Fantasy books. Like there are two "entrances" but you start in Room 21. But don't worry, this is not Warlock of Firetop Mountain... the big bad is the Fire Witch... oh no</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">GM Prep provided at Room 8 reads "It is the responsibility of the Game Master to fill in the needed information for each and every encounter or NPC." So basically you need to re-write the whole thing yourself.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Stats for all of the Gnolls goes here."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Orczburg is an orcish village led by a level 10 Cleric, and the module also makes note of Magic-Users. None of these classes are defined in the rules beforehand.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Everyone in this orc village seems to have a human name, and daughters... with individual ages specified (this does not happen for sons) and the tavern has a question when describing how many can sit at a bar...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An named NPC has "Servants Quarters" where he keeps unspecified number of female slaves and their five daughters, and there's a bit about how now and again he swaps out the oldest for a younger slave... and that nobody knows they're slaves (strange in an orc village?)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is a riddle which was clearly written by AI as it is incomprehensible to a human, but too grammatically correct for Justin or Dave.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Remarkably Dave manages to provide a list of three locations, then the descriptions of them with different spelling/wording in a separate list immediately afterwards</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More remarkably he has a room which describes the exists and where they connect to, which does not like up in any shape or form with the map provided</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Multiple entries direct you to page 00</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One room of the dungeon, unexplainably, contains real world books and insists you should look them up... not sure how this contributes to the immersion of an adventure as an orc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Room 30a's description is that it's a secret catacomb you can't find... and that's it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There's a corpse who's name and gender shift randomly</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Fire Witch is also sometimes The Grand Wizard, or the Lich...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There's a Necromancer who is apparently lord of the domain, but also lonely and bored as his encounter amounts to an escape room</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is a gnoll who challenges the players to "riddles" that are just philosophical questions, then grants wishes to the NPCs the module says will answer them correctly</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One encounter advises you to refer to a monster matrix at the end of the module, which is not present</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The rules for drinking potions are in last quarter of the module</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So is this extra character called Seth, who is apparently the main antagonist (forget what you read before) and "pre-generated" despite not being mentioned anywhere else in the book.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The final note says once you complete a task the Fire Witch gave you (not covered) the portal (also not covered) will open and the adventure will end.</li> </ul><p>This is honestly a hilarious failure at everything that it tried to be, its' too much work to be scam, too little work to be any sort of actual product and all it succeeds in doing is making the active parties (Justin, Dave and Mick) look worse than before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wincenworks, post: 9282107, member: 7038835"] Copy of Those Pesky Orcz arrived today and looking through it, it's worse than I expected [LIST] [*]Huge parts of it are literally copy-pasted from [I]Goblinz: Those Pesky Goblinz. A Role-Playing Game by Justin LaNasa[/I]. [*]First hilarious editing error (good work Mick) is on page 7 (effectively the first page of content), where it directs you to page 10 for content that appears on page 8. [*]The term OM is used throughout the book with the assumption that you know an Orc Master is the GM/DM substitute. [*]The vandalism of Mike Carr's work has been repeated too, so now the magic pools were goblin/orc urine... Justin sure seems to have a thing for being made to drink urine... and sharing that with the public [*]The meteor dagger has had it's original wording replaced with Low LaNasian word salad, and is referred to as MSchultz dagger like you're supposed to know what that means. [*]Module is credited to Dave Johnson and Justin LaNasa, but I think that's just because ChatGPT can't demand credit [*]Dave doesn't know the difference between Foreword and Forward... nor does he understand how quotation marks work [*]Module is clearly unaware of the establishment of OM, and talks about the Game Master [*]The adventure is introduced with a weird bit of (likely AI generated) prose that is about a female orc ranger (a concept completely inconsistent with the setup in the book) then tells you of the existence of a crew of orcs... who are not you or her. Rest of the module seems to assume she is with you at points. [*]The layout of the map is completely chaotic and nonsensical as anything but a single player "choose your own adventure" game ala ye olde Fighting Fantasy books. Like there are two "entrances" but you start in Room 21. But don't worry, this is not Warlock of Firetop Mountain... the big bad is the Fire Witch... oh no [*]GM Prep provided at Room 8 reads "It is the responsibility of the Game Master to fill in the needed information for each and every encounter or NPC." So basically you need to re-write the whole thing yourself. [*]"Stats for all of the Gnolls goes here." [*]Orczburg is an orcish village led by a level 10 Cleric, and the module also makes note of Magic-Users. None of these classes are defined in the rules beforehand. [*]Everyone in this orc village seems to have a human name, and daughters... with individual ages specified (this does not happen for sons) and the tavern has a question when describing how many can sit at a bar... [*]An named NPC has "Servants Quarters" where he keeps unspecified number of female slaves and their five daughters, and there's a bit about how now and again he swaps out the oldest for a younger slave... and that nobody knows they're slaves (strange in an orc village?) [*]There is a riddle which was clearly written by AI as it is incomprehensible to a human, but too grammatically correct for Justin or Dave. [*]Remarkably Dave manages to provide a list of three locations, then the descriptions of them with different spelling/wording in a separate list immediately afterwards [*]More remarkably he has a room which describes the exists and where they connect to, which does not like up in any shape or form with the map provided [*]Multiple entries direct you to page 00 [*]One room of the dungeon, unexplainably, contains real world books and insists you should look them up... not sure how this contributes to the immersion of an adventure as an orc. [*]Room 30a's description is that it's a secret catacomb you can't find... and that's it. [*]There's a corpse who's name and gender shift randomly [*]The Fire Witch is also sometimes The Grand Wizard, or the Lich... [*]There's a Necromancer who is apparently lord of the domain, but also lonely and bored as his encounter amounts to an escape room [*]There is a gnoll who challenges the players to "riddles" that are just philosophical questions, then grants wishes to the NPCs the module says will answer them correctly [*]One encounter advises you to refer to a monster matrix at the end of the module, which is not present [*]The rules for drinking potions are in last quarter of the module [*]So is this extra character called Seth, who is apparently the main antagonist (forget what you read before) and "pre-generated" despite not being mentioned anywhere else in the book. [*]The final note says once you complete a task the Fire Witch gave you (not covered) the portal (also not covered) will open and the adventure will end. [/LIST] This is honestly a hilarious failure at everything that it tried to be, its' too much work to be scam, too little work to be any sort of actual product and all it succeeds in doing is making the active parties (Justin, Dave and Mick) look worse than before. [/QUOTE]
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