Yora
Legend
Indeed. Us kids from back in 2000 are going on 40 now.
D&D (2024) The future of edition changes and revisions
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Yora
Legend
They certainly do now. In the places where AD&D is still popular, even the existance of a 2nd edition is barely acknowledged.
I will have to disagree. 2e was first but I found 4e next. It was the easiest to make new things you could plug a new power in the way other editions allow spells or feats. But I do see less in 5e but I’m not sure why
Rabulias
the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
The conversion document's URL says 2015 (https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/DnD_Conversions_1.0.pdf), and the copyright date within it is 2015. Looking at the metadata of the PDF, the created date is October 14, 2015.
my first Con I was 14ish I went with my best friend and she was called names I can not type here and I was told to go pound sand becuse 2e was training weeks for babies real men play the one and only Advanced Dungeons and Dragons… we had been playing for a few months maybe (had the book a bit longer but couldn’t get a group together) the only reason I didn’t quit was because my best friend said “gee must be loser day then for that table”
Her comebacks are way more curse fueled today.
EzekielRaiden
Follower of the Way
Alright. So a bit more than a year (13-14 months, depending on how you reckon). Still one of the more important support documents for any edition trying to gather up fans of previous editions, and (as I know I said at the time, though perhaps not on this forum), it's incredibly barebones, to the point that I cannot honestly believe it took more than a few days to write.
More importantly: any evidence to back up the claim that WotC has significantly expanded its staff since then? As I said, I haven't heard anything like that (in fact, if anything, I remember hearing about them letting people go!)
I know they've been hiring some folks from Paizo. Jason Tondro and F. Wesley Schneider are the ones I can think of off-hand, but I think I've seen some other names as well.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
Amanda Harmon, as well. And people from Kobold Press (Dan Dillon), and Beadle & Grimm's (Justice Armin), as well as more indie folks (Makenzie De Armas).
Hussar
Legend
A few thoughts.
1. Lore changes matter a lot less than people seem to think. All you have to do is compare a 5e Monster Manual to an earlier one. Virtually every single monster is changed and often changed significantly. Either the background lore of the race is added to or sometimes completely revised and no one cares. You never hear about how they changed all this lore going into 5e. Because they certainly did, but, again, no one cares. So, all this tempest in a teacup about ASI's and changing this or that race is just the whipping boy du jour and will fade away once people find some other bone to chew on.
2. After ten years, it's not unreasonable to think that we could use a refreshed Core 3. Does anyone really think that's it's unreasonable? That we've learned so little about the game and game design in the past ten+ years that we can't revise the game?
3. The OP mentioned how there wasn't much kerfuffle when 3e rolled out. Umm, there's a pretty large community over at Thunderfoot that might disagree with you there. Never minding an entire OSR community that rejects 3e completely. Might not be as large as the Paizo community but, it isn't small.
4. So long as they don't massively change things, most of the 5e books will still be viable. Sure, you might have some minor changes to race - but that's really easy to institute. Heck, it's quite possible that the majority of people won't even notice. What are the ASI's, without looking it up, for a Halfling? Sure, you might know it offhand, you D&D nerd you
, but, most people have no idea. Changing a svirfneblin's abilities? Virtually no one is going to notice. We're talking about a race that is played at a tiny, tiny fraction of tables. 99.9% of tables won't even know the difference. And, none of that will impact, say, the modules or splats, which mean that you can still play Hoard of the Dragon Queen after the revision without any difficulties.
1. Lore changes matter a lot less than people seem to think. All you have to do is compare a 5e Monster Manual to an earlier one. Virtually every single monster is changed and often changed significantly. Either the background lore of the race is added to or sometimes completely revised and no one cares. You never hear about how they changed all this lore going into 5e. Because they certainly did, but, again, no one cares. So, all this tempest in a teacup about ASI's and changing this or that race is just the whipping boy du jour and will fade away once people find some other bone to chew on.
2. After ten years, it's not unreasonable to think that we could use a refreshed Core 3. Does anyone really think that's it's unreasonable? That we've learned so little about the game and game design in the past ten+ years that we can't revise the game?
3. The OP mentioned how there wasn't much kerfuffle when 3e rolled out. Umm, there's a pretty large community over at Thunderfoot that might disagree with you there. Never minding an entire OSR community that rejects 3e completely. Might not be as large as the Paizo community but, it isn't small.
4. So long as they don't massively change things, most of the 5e books will still be viable. Sure, you might have some minor changes to race - but that's really easy to institute. Heck, it's quite possible that the majority of people won't even notice. What are the ASI's, without looking it up, for a Halfling? Sure, you might know it offhand, you D&D nerd you
, but, most people have no idea. Changing a svirfneblin's abilities? Virtually no one is going to notice. We're talking about a race that is played at a tiny, tiny fraction of tables. 99.9% of tables won't even know the difference. And, none of that will impact, say, the modules or splats, which mean that you can still play Hoard of the Dragon Queen after the revision without any difficulties.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
Well, only the difficulties thst were already there in 2014, at anynrate.
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