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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9571199" data-attributes="member: 18">If I was, this thread wouldn't exist would it mate lol?But you're getting yourself confused. The issue isn't whether celestials and demons are &quot;humanoid&quot;, it's about how D&amp;D has used the term &quot;humanoid&quot; historically, which is to say, it means corporeal beings - i.e. specifically ones that are flesh and blood, not beings of spirit - celestials and demons are beings of spirit. If you want to argue, argue with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and most of 5th edition, not with me. That's just how it was used, and pretending it's not is obviously not being real.It's amazing how bad you guys are at presenting counter-arguments. Instead of doing so, you seem to be locked into &quot;Well, that's like, just your opinion man...&quot;. And like sure! Obviously to some extent, but there are facts involved! And at least I'm presenting reasoning and explaining why, rather than just going &quot;Well who died and made you god!&quot; like we're all sulky teenagers in some early 1990s movie!Also, what do you think of the fact that WotC are saying PC Gith count as humanoids, but NPC Gith count as aberrant? Does that sit well with you? Do you like that? Is that how you would do it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9571199, member: 18"] If I was, this thread wouldn't exist would it mate lol? But you're getting yourself confused. The issue isn't whether celestials and demons are "humanoid", it's about how D&D has used the term "humanoid" historically, which is to say, it means corporeal beings - i.e. specifically ones that are flesh and blood, not beings of spirit - celestials and demons are beings of spirit. If you want to argue, argue with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and most of 5th edition, not with me. That's just how it was used, and pretending it's not is obviously not being real. It's amazing how bad you guys are at presenting counter-arguments. Instead of doing so, you seem to be locked into "Well, that's like, just your opinion man...". And like sure! Obviously to some extent, but there are facts involved! And at least I'm presenting reasoning and explaining why, rather than just going "Well who died and made you god!" like we're all sulky teenagers in some early 1990s movie! Also, what do you think of the fact that WotC are saying PC Gith count as humanoids, but NPC Gith count as aberrant? Does that sit well with you? Do you like that? Is that how you would do it? [/QUOTE]

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