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<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 505922" data-attributes="member: 4049"><p>By all means... although my comments weren't directed to you earlier.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see a problem here if the Paladin class is played within the D&D framework. Based upon what I've seen thus far in your post, I think your "Paladin" is not really a Paladin, but we'll deal with your points one at a time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd like to know where we've seen Paladins in a game used in this fashion. I've never used them like this. I've never had a Paladin as a class commit acts of genocide in the name of their god. </p><p></p><p>Quite frankly, I think that your perspective on Paladins is appropriate for a "Vile" or very, very mature and not so much alignment-oriented game. You're bringing in elements that typically would not be a part of the traditional/standard game.</p><p></p><p>In a game I run, a Paladin would not murder wantonly (unless forced or tricked into doing so). A Paladin defends just laws for the common good. She would not start killing or even arresting people who did not follow said laws unless their actions directly impacted and conflicted with the common good. Even if the tradition is being challenged, the traditional D&D Paladin would not just start killing and/or removing people because they disagreed with her. Would she frown upon their position and behavior? Sure, but that would be it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You're describing a LN Monk, or an attorney from <em>Law and Order</em>, not the traditional D&D Paladin.</p><p></p><p>A Paladin would react with remorse if she had to kill someone who was threatening her or others, but she would not hesitate. And this threat would have to be life-threatening or potentially so, not some vague situation.</p><p></p><p>Local laws would not be ignored. I see Paladins as a bunch of Supermen. Superman would not just wantonly fly into some country and impose his clearly LG ideology on people, but would not stand by as people are murdered and abused. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As any religious entity, Lawful or not, would... although, a Paladin does not endorse the behaviors you describe.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But I don't see a LG god up and demanding that degree of sacrifice either. </p><p></p><p></p><p>At least we agree on something! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Your arguments are excellent by the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 505922, member: 4049"] By all means... although my comments weren't directed to you earlier. I don't see a problem here if the Paladin class is played within the D&D framework. Based upon what I've seen thus far in your post, I think your "Paladin" is not really a Paladin, but we'll deal with your points one at a time. I'd like to know where we've seen Paladins in a game used in this fashion. I've never used them like this. I've never had a Paladin as a class commit acts of genocide in the name of their god. Quite frankly, I think that your perspective on Paladins is appropriate for a "Vile" or very, very mature and not so much alignment-oriented game. You're bringing in elements that typically would not be a part of the traditional/standard game. In a game I run, a Paladin would not murder wantonly (unless forced or tricked into doing so). A Paladin defends just laws for the common good. She would not start killing or even arresting people who did not follow said laws unless their actions directly impacted and conflicted with the common good. Even if the tradition is being challenged, the traditional D&D Paladin would not just start killing and/or removing people because they disagreed with her. Would she frown upon their position and behavior? Sure, but that would be it. You're describing a LN Monk, or an attorney from [i]Law and Order[/i], not the traditional D&D Paladin. A Paladin would react with remorse if she had to kill someone who was threatening her or others, but she would not hesitate. And this threat would have to be life-threatening or potentially so, not some vague situation. Local laws would not be ignored. I see Paladins as a bunch of Supermen. Superman would not just wantonly fly into some country and impose his clearly LG ideology on people, but would not stand by as people are murdered and abused. As any religious entity, Lawful or not, would... although, a Paladin does not endorse the behaviors you describe. But I don't see a LG god up and demanding that degree of sacrifice either. At least we agree on something! :) Your arguments are excellent by the way. [/QUOTE]
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