The Great Hero Showdown (First Round Voting Results Up!)

stevelabny said:
so i finish reading the villain thread and somehow see that that this thread is up and complete before i ever laid eyes on it.

and i have to say...BAD JOB PEOPLE.

this nominations list alone is more awful than any of the upsets that happened in the villain contest. 2 Watchmen? It's a 12 issue mini-series! 3 Knights of the Round Table? Why?
Comic Book villains did real well, and Flash, Green Lantern and Daredevil get left off the list?

What about Zorro? Snake-Eyes? Dumbledore got nominated but Harry didnt?

Also...the pictures. Dear god, why would you guys use pictures of live-action He-Man and live-action Tick? And that Robin Hood?

I just hope that all these random characters from novels that nobody ever read get paired off against heroes who deserve to move on.

I know I nominated some strange villains, but I was trying to hit the important non-obivous genre spots. Some of these picks are just bizarre.

Are you perhaps making references to some nominations of mine? It is your fault that you haven't read Necroscope series, I love them. There are Vamphires there that could eat Dracula for breakfast. And i am popularizing them, I hope.

And my Robin Hood is sexy!

But I really think we don't have enough. Zorro is definately big omission.
 
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stevelabny said:
so i finish reading the villain thread and somehow see that that this thread is up and complete before i ever laid eyes on it.

and i have to say...BAD JOB PEOPLE.

this nominations list alone is more awful than any of the upsets that happened in the villain contest. 2 Watchmen? It's a 12 issue mini-series! 3 Knights of the Round Table? Why?
Comic Book villains did real well, and Flash, Green Lantern and Daredevil get left off the list?

What about Zorro? Snake-Eyes? Dumbledore got nominated but Harry didnt?

Also...the pictures. Dear god, why would you guys use pictures of live-action He-Man and live-action Tick? And that Robin Hood?

I just hope that all these random characters from novels that nobody ever read get paired off against heroes who deserve to move on.

I know I nominated some strange villains, but I was trying to hit the important non-obivous genre spots. Some of these picks are just bizarre.
Well, if you find everybody's choices so awful, then maybe you'll put your money where your mouth is and refrain from voting or commenting during the voting rounds.
 

well that would be counter-productive. there are still heroes on this list worth voting for, theres just lots that arent. It makes more sense to vote to backup my opinion.
 

stevelabny said:
well that would be counter-productive. there are still heroes on this list worth voting for, theres just lots that arent. It makes more sense to vote to backup my opinion.

Yes, but if your basis of worthiness is only popularity, I think you are overacting.
 

stevelabny said:
well that would be counter-productive. there are still heroes on this list worth voting for, theres just lots that arent. It makes more sense to vote to backup my opinion.


And since you came here with a bit of a mean attitude, it makes sense that we will hope you would not participate. :/

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El Rav
 

who's being mean?

Just because some people that I "hang out" with do something that I think is dumb, does not mean I'm being mean.

Imagine we were all sitting around playing d&d and eating junk food, and then one of us says "I think that Bea Arthur is hot" and then someone else says "Eww, youre crazy. Why not go after a hot chick instead, stupid?"

This is not mean, this is not personal. While the opinion (bea arthur being hot) is being considered crazy and stupid, it does mean that the person WITH the opinion is crazy and stupid in any other circumstance.

EnWorld = a hangout. Other posters = people I am hanging out with.

There is nothing mean or personal behind any disagreements I have with any ridiculous statements people make about fictional characters. How could there be?

Any perceived "meanness" is the sarcasm and teasing that go along with any friendly relationship.

Author's note: If you are Bea Arthur, please do no take personal offense to me calling you ugly. I'm sure you've got a great personality.
 

wolf70 said:
Could you follow the tradition of the Villain Thread and list where each is from and any other names they may have in the master list, especially for the more obscure ones?

{adding the ones I know, including some incredibly obvious ones}

Hero Master List

1. Conan the Cimmerian (Robert Howard's novels, Conan movies)
2. Batman (Batman comics, Batman movies)
3. Hong Kong Phooey
4. Dudley Do-Right (The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show)
5. Sethra Lavode (Steven Brust's Dragaera novels)
6. Luke Skywalker (Star Wars)
7. Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
8. Miles Vorkosigan (Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan novels)
9. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones movies)
10. Superman (Superman comics, Superman movies, Smallville, Lois & Clark, Superman TV series)
11. Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly)
12. Croaker (Glen Cook's Black Company novels)
13. Sam Vimes (Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels)
14. Samwise Gamgee (Lord of the Rings)
15. Gamera
16. Thrall (Warcraft)
17. Corwin of Amber (Roger Zelany's Amber novels)
18. Richard Sharpe
19. Sherlock Holmes (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories)
20. Maui
21. CuChulainn (Celtic mythology)
22. The Doctor (Doctor Who)
23. Flash Gordon
24. John Crichton
25. Aeryn Sun
26. Arthur Dent (Hitchhiker's Guide)
27. Wonder Woman (comics, TV show)
28. Superboy (comics)
29. Agent Dale Cooper
30. Captain Adama (the new Battlestar Galactica)
31. Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird)
32. James Bond (movies, Ian Flemming's stories)
33. The Terminator (Terminator 2)
34. Beowulf (mythology)
35. Rocky Balboa (Rocky movies)
36. Ellen Ripley (Alien)
37. Robin Hood (mythology, movies)
38. Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
39. Drizzt Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms novels)
40. Spider-Man (comics, movies, TV shows)
41. Hercules (mythology, movies, TV show)
42. Wicket (Return of the Jedi)
43. Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars: The Phantom Menace)
44. Hellboy (comics, movie)
45. King Arthur (mythology, various novels)
46. Harry Keogh
47. Han Solo (Star Wars)
48. Speed Racer (TV series)
49. Austin Powers (movies)
50. Professor Albus Dumbledore (Harry Potter)
51. Neo (Matrix)
52. Captain James T. Kirk (Star Trek)
53. Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
54. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars)
55. Honor Harrington (David Weber's novels)
56. Carl Kolchak
57. Captain Benjamin Sisko (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)
58. Odysseus (mythology)
59. Don Quixote
60. Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel)
61. The Lone Ranger
62. Wesley Wyndham Pryce (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel)
63. Elminster (Forgotten Realms novels)
64. Doc Savage
65. Parksenarion (Elizabeth Moon's Deed of Paksenarion)
66. Alice (Alice in Wonderland)
67. Captain Marvel (comics)
68. The Shadow
69. Super Mario (Mario Brothers video games)
70. The Punisher (comics, movie)
71. John Carter of Mars
72. Captain America (comics)
73. Tarzan
74. Aragorn (Lord of the Rings)
75. Gandalf the Grey (Lord of the Rings)
76. John Sheridan (Babylon 5)
77. Rincewind (Discworld)
78. The Man with No Name
79. The Phantom
80. Delenn (Babylon 5)
81. Trinity (Matrix)
82. Solomon Kane
83. Yoda (Star Wars)
84. El Borak
85. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)
86. Godzilla (movies)
87. Connor MacLeod (Highlander)
88. Thor (mythology)
89. Ozymandias
90. Rorschach
91. The Hulk (comics, tv show, movie)
92. The Tick (comics, tv shows)
93. Nolan Benholm
94. Jackie Chan
95. Link (Legend of Zelda)
96. Leto II
97. Wesley (The Princess Bride)
98. Jen the Gelfling (The Dark Crystal)
99. Perseus (Greek mythology)
100. Duncan Idaho
101. Sir Lancelot (Arthurian mythology)
102. Nathan Kiklu
103. Sir Galahad (Arthurian mythology)
104. Gilgamesh (mythology)
105. Frodo Baggins (Lord of the Rings)
106. Gordon Freeman
107. Vlad Taltos (Steven Brust's Dragaera novels)
108. Ralph Hinkley
109. Paladin - The Man in Black (Have Gun Will Travel)
110. John Rambo (Rambo movies)
111. Severain the Torturer
112. Sam Emerson (The Lost Boys)
113. Wolverine (X-men and other comics, X-men movies)
114. Jack Bauer (24)
115. Professor X (X-men and other comics, X-men movies)
116. The Wraith
117. Ash (Army of Darkness)
118. Spongebob Squarepants (tv show)
119. Mad Max Rockatansky (Mad Max, The Road Warrior)
120. Optimus Prime (Transformers)
121. He-Man (comics, tv shows)
122. Haru, the Great White Ninja
123. B.A. Baracus (A-Team)
124. Jack O'Neill
125. RoboCop
126. Mack Bolan (The Executioner)
127. Inigo Montoya (The Princess Bride)
128. Marty McFly (Back to the Future)
 

stevelabny said:
so i finish reading the villain thread and somehow see that that this thread is up and complete before i ever laid eyes on it.

and i have to say...BAD JOB PEOPLE.

this nominations list alone is more awful than any of the upsets that happened in the villain contest. 2 Watchmen? It's a 12 issue mini-series! 3 Knights of the Round Table? Why?
Comic Book villains did real well, and Flash, Green Lantern and Daredevil get left off the list?

What about Zorro? Snake-Eyes? Dumbledore got nominated but Harry didnt?

Also...the pictures. Dear god, why would you guys use pictures of live-action He-Man and live-action Tick? And that Robin Hood?

I just hope that all these random characters from novels that nobody ever read get paired off against heroes who deserve to move on.

I know I nominated some strange villains, but I was trying to hit the important non-obivous genre spots. Some of these picks are just bizarre.

If you wanted more heroes you like, you should have nominated more.
 

Thanks for the help, wolf70 and drothgery! This should make things a lot easier.

And without further adeu, the first voting round...

1. Conan the Cimmerian (Robert Howard's novels, Conan movies) versus Parksenarion (Elizabeth Moon's Deed of Paksenarion)
2. Batman (Batman comics, Batman movies) versus Alice (Alice in Wonderland)
3. Hong Kong Phooey versus Captain Marvel (comics)
4. Dudley Do-Right (The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show) versus The Shadow
5. Sethra Lavode (Steven Brust's Dragaera novels) versus Super Mario (Mario Brothers video games)
6. Luke Skywalker (Star Wars) versus The Punisher (comics, movie)
7. Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) John Carter of Mars
8. Miles Vorkosigan (Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan novels) versus Captain America
9. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones movies) versus Tarzan
10. Superman versus Aragorn (Lord of the Rings)
11. Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly) versus Gandalf the Grey (Lord of the Rings)
12. Croaker (Glen Cook's Black Company novels) versus John Sheridan (Babylon 5)
13. Sam Vimes (Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels) versus Rincewind (Discworld)
14. Samwise Gamgee (Lord of the Rings) versus The Man with No Name (Sergio Leone's Dollars trilogy)
15. Gamera versus The Phantom
16. Thrall (Warcraft) versus Delenn (Babylon 5)
17. Corwin of Amber (Roger Zelany's Amber novels) versus Trinity (Matrix)
18. Richard Sharpe versus Solomon Kane
19. Sherlock Holmes (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories) versus Yoda (Star Wars)
20. Maui versus El Borak
21. CuChulainn (Celtic mythology) versus Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)
22. The Doctor (Doctor Who) versus Godzilla (movies)
23. Flash Gordon versus versus Marty McFly (Back to the Future)
24. John Crichton (Babylon 5) versus Connor MacLeod (Highlander)
25. Aeryn Sun verus Thor (Norse mythology, Marvel comics)
26. Arthur Dent (Hitchhiker's Guide) versus Ozymandias
27. Wonder Woman (comics, TV show) Rorschach
28. Superboy (comics) versus the Hulk
29. Agent Dale Cooper versus The Tick (comics, tv shows)
30. Captain Adama (the new Battlestar Galactica) versus Nolan Benholm
31. Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird) versus Jackie Chan
32. James Bond (movies, Ian Fleming's stories) versus Link (Legend of Zelda)
33. The Terminator (Terminator 2) versus Leto II (Children of Dune)
34. Beowulf (mythology) versus Wesley (The Princess Bride)
35. Rocky Balboa (Rocky movies) versus Jen the Gelfling (The Dark Crystal)
36. Ellen Ripley (Alien) versus Perseus (Greek mythology)
37. Robin Hood (mythology, movies) versus Duncan Idaho (Dune)
38. Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) versus Sir Lancelot (Arthurian mythology)
39. Drizzt Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms novels) versus Nathan Kiklu
40. Spider-Man (comics, movies, TV shows) versus Sir Galahad (Arthurian mythology)
41. Hercules (mythology, movies, TV show) versus Gilgamesh (mythology)
42. Wicket (Return of the Jedi) versus Frodo Baggins (Lord of the Rings)
43. Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars: The Phantom Menace) versus Gordon Freeman
44. Hellboy (comics, movie) versus Vlad Taltos (Steven Brust's Dragaera novels)
45. King Arthur (mythology, various novels) versus Ralph Hinkley
46. Harry Keogh versus Paladin - The Man in Black (Have Gun Will Travel)
47. Han Solo (Star Wars) versus John Rambo (Rambo movies)
48. Speed Racer (TV series) versus Severain the Torturer
49. Austin Powers (movies) versus Sam Emerson (The Lost Boys)
50. Professor Albus Dumbledore (Harry Potter) versus Wolverine (X-men and other comics, X-men movies)
51. Neo (Matrix) versus Jack Bauer (24)
52. Captain James T. Kirk (Star Trek) versus Professor X (X-men and other comics, X-men movies)
53. Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation) versus the Wraith
54. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars) versus Ash (Army of Darkness)
55. Honor Harrington (David Weber's novels) versus Spongebob Squarepants (tv show)
56. Carl Kolchak versus Mad Max
57. Captain Benjamin Sisko (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) versus Optimus Prime (Transformers)
58. Odysseus (mythology) Versus He-Man (comics, tv shows)
59. Don Quixote versus Haru, the Great White Ninja
60. Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel) versus B.A. Baracus (A-Team)
61. The Lone Ranger versus versus Jack O'Neill
62. Wesley Wyndham Pryce (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel) versus RoboCop
63. Elminster (Forgotten Realms novels) versus Mack Bolan (The Executioner)
64. Doc Savage versus Inigo Montoya (The Princess Bride)

Voting will close on the evening of Monday, August 16.
 

1. Conan the Cimmerian (Robert Howard's novels, Conan movies))
2. Batman (Batman comics, Batman movies)
3. Hong Kong Phooey
4. The Shadow
5. Super Mario (Mario Brothers video games)
6. Luke Skywalker (Star Wars)
7. Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
8. Captain America
9. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones movies)
10. Superman
11. Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly)
12. Sheridan
13. n/a
14. The Man with No Name (Sergio Leone's Dollars trilogy)
15. The Phantom
16. Delenn (Babylon 5)
17. Trinity (Matrix)
18. n/a
19. Sherlock Holmes (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories)
20. n/a
21. CuChulainn (Celtic mythology)
22. The Doctor (Doctor Who)
23. Marty McFly (Back to the Future)
24. John Crichton (Babylon 5)
25. Aeryn Sun
26. Ozymandias
27. Rorschach
28. The Hulk
29. Agent Dale Cooper
30. Nolin Benholm It's Nolin, with an I.
31. Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird)
32. James Bond (movies, Ian Fleming's stories)
33. The Terminator (Terminator 2)
34. Beowulf (mythology)
35. Rocky Balboa (Rocky movies)
36. Ellen Ripley (Alien)
37. Robin Hood (mythology, movies)
38. Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) versus Sir Lancelot (Arthurian mythology) Great contest! Wish it had waited 'til later, for reasons that would be apparent if you were in my d20 Modern game. But I have to vote for Angel.
39. Drizzt Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms novels)
40. Spider-Man (comics, movies, TV shows)
41. Gilgamesh (mythology)
42. Wicket (Return of the Jedi) versus Frodo Baggins (Lord of the Rings) Bastard! Um . . . err . . . dammit! Frodo!
43. Gordon Freeman
44. Hellboy (comics, movie)
45. King Arthur (mythology, various novels) versus Ralph Hinkley I vote no confidence!
46. Paladin - The Man in Black (Have Gun Will Travel)
47. Han Solo (Star Wars)
48. Speed Racer (TV series)
49. Austin Powers (movies)
50. Wolverine (X-men and other comics, X-men movies)
51. Neo (Matrix)
52. Captain James T. Kirk (Star Trek)
53. Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
54. Ash (Army of Darkness)
55. n/a
56. Mad Max
57. Optimus Prime (Transformers)
58. Odysseus (mythology)
59. Don Quixote
60. Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel)
61. The Lone Ranger
62. Wesley Wyndham Pryce (Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel)
63. Elminster (Forgotten Realms novels) versus Mack Bolan (The Executioner) Again, I vote no confidence.
64. Inigo Montoya (The Princess Bride)
 

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