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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 9223864" data-attributes="member: 12731">During the history of roleplaying games it never seems to work out. I just think you're asking too much of people creating monsters. You have a choice between two ways to proceed:Either you insist that grappling (or spell dueling or what have you) should exist (and not target the usual defenses), and you end up with an unbalanced mess of a game in 99 cases out of a 100...*...or you realize this ahead of time and simply drop the idea.The third option is to keep trying to create alternatives, but always scaling them back when they're shown (by gamers) to not be working (=players find ways to abuse these rules). This usually ends when the devs realize they've created a second way to target AC and HP; when they realize there's no real difference between their systems in practice.*) A constructive avenue here would be to stop trying to reinvent the same very difficult wheel and instead ask ourselves "is there even one game with a successful number of competing attack modes" and then, you know, lifting the mechanics of that game...</blockquote>