The green dragon breath weapon

[blargney the second]

I like that one, Three Haligonians. It might not be a bad idea to drop the damage a bit.
-blarg

 

[KarinsDad]

I like that one, Three Haligonians. It might not be a bad idea to drop the damage a bit.

No need. Energy damage typically does not damage items unless the creature rolls a one on a saving throw.

 

[Sound of Azure]

No need. Energy damage typically does not damage items unless the creature rolls a one on a saving throw.

That's a pretty confusing response to the text you quoted. :\ Blarg didn't mention items...

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I like the suggestion for sonic damage, though, 3H!

 

[Dross]

That's a pretty confusing response to the text you quoted. :\ Blarg didn't mention items...

I think the reference is to note the fact that sonic bypasses hardness (hence the usual practice of it doing less average damage) of objects.

But attended items only get damaged on a natural 1 save.

 

[KarinsDad]

I think the reference is to note the fact that sonic bypasses hardness (hence the usual practice of it doing less average damage) of objects.

But attended items only get damaged on a natural 1 save.

Precisely. This is the reason why Sonic damage is typically less, but that is usually only an issue for PCs attacking objects (such as walls, doors, vaults, etc.).

NPCs (such as a Dragon) would typically not be breaking down walls (or attacking PC attended items) with a breath weapon, so lowering the damage due to the bypass hardness reason does not make as much sense as for Sonic attacks that are typically used against objects. The utility just is not there.

 

[Primitive Screwhead]

Why not treat it like a minor Cloud kill, and leave it as is for use underwater?

Green Dragon Breath weapons is a cloud of nausuous, acidic fumes.
Duration: 1 round per age category of the Dragon
Each round spent in contact with the cloud risks becoming nauseated and losing 1 point of CON, Fort save negates. The nauseated condition remains 1d4 rounds after exiting the cloud of fumes. Creatures immune to poisen ignore the nauseating ability of these fumes, but still may lose CON due to the corrosive aspects of the cloud.
The cloud also provides concealment, granting a 20% miss chance.
{which the dragon ignores due to having Blindsense...}

The size of the cloud is dependant on the size of the dragon:

Dragon Size        Cloud
Tiny                  5 ft.
Small                 10 ft.
Medium               15 ft.
Large                  20 ft.
Huge                   25 ft.
Gargantuan          30 ft.
Colossal              35 ft.

Using this, an Adult Green can maintain a 25' cloud of nastyness for the entire day..{each cloud lasts 6 rounds} The fumes DC would be a DC 25...

[/evil]

 

[Destil]

Hmm.. perhaps I am setting myself up for a lynching but I feel a difference solution is in order.
5 Chromatic Dragons and 5 Energy Types.. doesn't take a genius to figure this out:
Red: Fire
Blue: Electricity
White: Cold
Black: Acid
Green: Sonic
It's a nice, neat package..

J from Three Haligonians

Beat me too it, I've been doing this since early 3E. Same for the bronze.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Very true. Back in the old days we said that holding breath didn't work. The gas is acidic, not enough to cause damage on skin but discolors things and enough to make you suck in air because of the pain on the sensitive tissues in your body it was affecting...such as the inside of the nose .

Wait a minute. So, they revised the rules on green dragons so that it works exactly how you ruled it back in the old days . . . and you're upset about it?

 

[Aries_Omega]

Possible Solution

Thank you ALL before I forget...all of you. This is great stuff and I am keeping notes. Anyone familiar with the Dragon magazine issue 343 with the Hex Dragon in it? I was browsing and other then the fact it looks like the dragon in the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty (look at the movie and the picture HERE ) it has a poison spit breath weapon. What do you think of a revised, omg I am going to choke to death and my corpse will slowly be burned by acid version of the green dragon to be somewhat in line with the Hex Dragon. I mean a Mature adult has a 100 ft. line, contact poison, Fortitude DC 25, initial and secondary damage 1d10 Con poison breath weapon. What do you all think of using the same thing but as a cone for green dragon?

I just noticed that the Hex Dragon's "poison spit" breath weapon is a "Su" type ability. Does that mean that if you have a natural immunity, acquired immunity and/or resistance to poisons that it doesn't apply unless it also applies to supernatural/supernormal poisons?

 

[Aries_Omega]

Breath Weapon

Wait a minute. So, they revised the rules on green dragons so that it works exactly how you ruled it back in the old days . . . and you're upset about it?

No..old school rules was it was a cloud of cholrine gas that you coughed to death on. No mention it was a cone of acid, ala black dragon breath weapon but in cone format. In the game my DM ran he had the elves invent a alchemical item that was a darkwood mask with filters in it to allow for save for half or nothing instead of save for full or half damage. The 3.5 edition doesn't have that....it's a cone of acid. I wanted to redo the green dragon to be this Choking Death dragon type.