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Grues have been around a long time, from the 1e MMII. They're basically minor elementals, filling the mephit niche before there were mephits. But this isn't the first appearance of "official" 3e grues- they were in the Dragon Magazine released in conjunction with RotToEE.

Demiurge out.
 

Since no one else has (or even noticed, I think...)

"And whats with the bleen stuff?"

bleen and grue are predicates that we use in philosphy. We define them just to show that normal precidates (like green and blue) arn't projectable (that is, go into the future) in the way we think they are.

This has been a message from a geeky philospher.
 

I was wondering about that.

Sorry, I was too busy thinking about Zork to process your comment. But a very cool idea, none-the-less

This disappoints me, because I wanted to make the D&D statistics for a Grue.
 

demiurge1138 said:
They're basically minor elementals, filling the mephit niche before there were mephits.


Except that Mephits appeared in the Fiend Folio, long before the Grues appeared in the MMII.
 

Glyfair said:
Except that Mephits appeared in the Fiend Folio, long before the Grues appeared in the MMII.

Except that in the 1ed Fiend Folio, mephits were specifically fire and amalgams thereof (fire, lava, steam, and smoke, I think). They didn't really cover the elemental bases to the extent that happened subsequently.
 

Dr_Rictus said:
Except that in the 1ed Fiend Folio, mephits were specifically fire and amalgams thereof (fire, lava, steam, and smoke, I think). They didn't really cover the elemental bases to the extent that happened subsequently.

Well, as you can tell, I didn't use Mephits in those days :) Indeed, I used very little from the Fiend Folio.

When exactly did they expand to the multi-elementals? I imagine it was somewhat after the Dragon article where they first created the para-elemental planes and quasi-elemental planes.
 
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