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The highest-damage fighter power is level 3?!
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<blockquote data-quote="Azza" data-source="post: 4315127" data-attributes="member: 68974"><p>I'm definitely reading this as two attacks and hitting grants a secondary attack if using the appropriate weapon, up to a maximum total of four attacks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This has me a little confused. The weapon effect is, If you are wielding an axe, hammer or mace you gain a bonus to <em>the </em>damage roll of your CON modifier(emphasis mine). Doesn't that mean the attack had to hit to have a damage roll? Wouldn't that mean that this weapon effect is dependent on a successful hit? It doesn't mention anything about continuing to add your CON bonus for any amount of time, ie until the end/start of your next turn or any such. It specifies, "the" damage roll, the one made if this attack was a success. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at Armor-Piercing thrust. The weapon effect not dependent on hitting is listed before the hit result(the bonus to hit). The weapon effect dependent on hitting(the bonus damage) is listed after. To me, at least, this format clearly shows the intended effects.</p><p></p><p>If we used this format for Rain of Blows, and wanted to say the appropriate weapon only added one attack then surely it would read directly under attack, but above hit(just like armor piercing strike)</p><p>"Weapon:If your wielding a light blade, a spear or a flail and have a dexterity over 15 make a third attack."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are they automatic? Look at Come and get it(pg 80). The automatic effect is clearly labeled as such. For this power it occurs before the attack. For Silverstep(pg 81) it happens after the attack, isn't indented so clearly doesn't rely on a hit. There are other powers that have a miss effect listed as well as a hit. All are clearly labeled. I believe all these 3rd level powers rely on a hit!</p><p></p><p>Back to rain of blows, if the weapon restriction wasn't included for granting the secondary attack would there be debate? If on the line under hit it red "secondary attack" would there be doubt? Look at Giants Wake (pg 81). It is pretty clear for this power that on a successful hit you get a secondary attack. I dont think this wording is much different from rain of blows, just the requirement for getting the secondary attack on a successful hit is listed the next line down.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Azza.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azza, post: 4315127, member: 68974"] I'm definitely reading this as two attacks and hitting grants a secondary attack if using the appropriate weapon, up to a maximum total of four attacks. This has me a little confused. The weapon effect is, If you are wielding an axe, hammer or mace you gain a bonus to [I]the [/I]damage roll of your CON modifier(emphasis mine). Doesn't that mean the attack had to hit to have a damage roll? Wouldn't that mean that this weapon effect is dependent on a successful hit? It doesn't mention anything about continuing to add your CON bonus for any amount of time, ie until the end/start of your next turn or any such. It specifies, "the" damage roll, the one made if this attack was a success. Look at Armor-Piercing thrust. The weapon effect not dependent on hitting is listed before the hit result(the bonus to hit). The weapon effect dependent on hitting(the bonus damage) is listed after. To me, at least, this format clearly shows the intended effects. If we used this format for Rain of Blows, and wanted to say the appropriate weapon only added one attack then surely it would read directly under attack, but above hit(just like armor piercing strike) "Weapon:If your wielding a light blade, a spear or a flail and have a dexterity over 15 make a third attack." Are they automatic? Look at Come and get it(pg 80). The automatic effect is clearly labeled as such. For this power it occurs before the attack. For Silverstep(pg 81) it happens after the attack, isn't indented so clearly doesn't rely on a hit. There are other powers that have a miss effect listed as well as a hit. All are clearly labeled. I believe all these 3rd level powers rely on a hit! Back to rain of blows, if the weapon restriction wasn't included for granting the secondary attack would there be debate? If on the line under hit it red "secondary attack" would there be doubt? Look at Giants Wake (pg 81). It is pretty clear for this power that on a successful hit you get a secondary attack. I dont think this wording is much different from rain of blows, just the requirement for getting the secondary attack on a successful hit is listed the next line down. Azza. [/QUOTE]
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