The Hulk Trailer

[kkoie]

Since when is lack of ability an excuse for poor work? Just cause they can't make an awesome looking Hulk doesn't mean I can't whine about it ! Anyway, it doesn't look any worse than LotR or Episode II. I'm still surprised by Blade II's having outdone all of these movies when it came to believable cgi of the actors in fight scenes. It's looking like Matrix Reloaded will disappoint here too, but I'm betting on the big screen it will hardly be noticeable. Just don't watch it on a monitor..

Hulk still looks great though. The insane displays of raw power are just too fun to watch.

Its not poor work. Thats my point. The problem is, too many people who do not understand how CGI works or how its put together are comparing it to real life.

Films like Blade II's CGI succeed because there isn't that much of it compared to movies like Star Wars. They probably kept their CGI to an absolute minimum, both for effectiveness, and cost. I would think mainly cost. CGI is more expensive than any other part of film.

I think that CGI was the best way to go, to create the HULK they were looking for. I suppose they could've used other techniques, but some of the things that have been done in just the trailers, would still require a full CGI character. I think it's best to have only the CGI character, rather than a mix of that and some painted man. Otherwise the differnse between the real actor, and the full CGI character, would be too obvious. This way, its seemless all the way through the film.

OF all the film discussions I've been in, I've yet to participate in one where somebody doesn't whines that the CGI is lousy. Time and again I believe its due to ignorance of the medium, and expectations that it look as good as real life. A 100% CGI character has a way to go before it mimics real life to the point where people can no longer tell the differnse.

 

[Wayside]

OF all the film discussions I've been in, I've yet to participate in one where somebody doesn't whines that the CGI is lousy. Time and again I believe its due to ignorance of the medium, and expectations that it look as good as real life. A 100% CGI character has a way to go before it mimics real life to the point where people can no longer tell the differnse.

But you see that ignorance of the medium has no bearing on whether a complaint about it is valid? Bad paints aren't an excuse for a bad painting. Cost isn't a valid counterargument either.

But believe me I know how tough cgi is, and I never did much with it except for fun, back when Lightwave and 3dsmax were all the rage. I don't even think the Hulk looks that bad. At least it's not the new Zelda game on the cube !

 

[John Crichton]

But believe me I know how tough cgi is, and I never did much with it except for fun, back when Lightwave and 3dsmax were all the rage. I don't even think the Hulk looks that bad. At least it's not the new Zelda game on the cube !

Hmmm.

If the Hulk film is as entertaining as the new Zelda game then we are in for a serious treat.

 

[Numion]

Other then the problems with shape and texture, I thought that the CG character lacked a proper sense of mass and gravity.

Why would that be? Maybe because they show the hulk hurling an M1 tank around himself, spinning, which would indicate that either:

a) Hulk weights many times the tanks weight

b) His feet are attached to the ground

Neither seem very likely, even in comicbook context.

 

[Assenpfeffer]

Why would that be? Maybe because they show the hulk hurling an M1 tank around himself, spinning, which would indicate that either:

a) Hulk weights many times the tanks weight

b) His feet are attached to the ground

Neither seem very likely, even in comicbook context.

Yeah, but it does look cool.

I don't care that the CGI doesn't match up exactly to real-life anatomy or physics. Close enough will do.

I thought the CGI fight sequences in Blade II looked very bogus. I was entertained anyway.

 

[brak1]

I'm really looking forward to this movie, more because I'm a Hulk fan than anything else. I was hoping the CGI would look more realistic and admit to being a little disappointed with what I've seen so far.

I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the green skin, actually. The skin tones on Gollum were part of what made me buy the performance - made me forget his "artificialness," if you will. With the Hulk we don't get a lot of the physical cues that allow us to suspend out disbelief. His proportions are krunked up, he's wearing purple pants (never happen in real life ) and he's green.

Maybe I'm just rambling. Yeah, probably.

Regardless, I'll be there on opening day - purple pants and all.

 

[Ristamar]

Hmmm.

If the Hulk film is as entertaining as the new Zelda game then we are in for a serious treat.

I agree. And CGI Hulk only wishes he was as cool and expressive as Link in all his cel-shaded glory. Haters be damned.

 

[John Crichton]

I agree. And CGI Hulk only wishes he was as cool and expressive as Link in all his cel-shaded glory. Haters be damned.

Heheh. Wind Waker Link shocked the poo outta me when I played the game. I knew it would be good, but not nearly as much fun as I'm having with the game.

As for the "fake" looking CGI Hulk: He really doesn't look all that fake to me. I have a fairly vivid imagination, being a DM (but aren't we all? ), and he looks just about how I'd describe him in a game and how I saw him in my head. It in no way looks bad to me. It's not perfect but I stopped dissecting movies down to their core many years ago. Since none of us will ever see anything like that in real life, I think it's a tad hard to judge. Plus, many of those shots in the trailer are in sunlight or well-lit locations, which is VERY hard to pull off CGI in.

But all that aside, the 2 reasons for me wanting to see this are:

a.) Ang Lee
b.) Jennifer Connelly

 

[Spatula]

His proportions are krunked up, he's wearing purple pants (never happen in real life )

That was one of my first thoughts, along with, "How are his pants not shredded to bits?" But it looks like the purple pants are bike shorts, in which case them being purple isn't out of the ordinary. And spandex stretches, although probably not that much.

 

[kkoie]

I would much rather they be unrealistic and his pants not shread, rather than be forced to stare at a naked hulk throught the film. Thankyouverymuch.