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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 1765657" data-attributes="member: 7533">Alright...&nbsp; Considering how often I have monks in my games, considering how often grappling happens in my games, and considering the typical amount of damage that extra unarmed attack will deal...&nbsp; Eh, it's not really a big enough impact on the game for me to worry about as a DM.&nbsp; So while I now think that you indeed probably have the correct interpretation, I also think that I'd give my players my standard reply to such a rule-question...&quot;Pick one or the other, and we'll use that one always.&nbsp; But remember...&nbsp; Whatever your characters can do, so can the NPCs.&quot;Often that's enough to drive them away from an abusive interpretation of the rules.This one I'd definitely allow, and I'd allow it for anyone, not just a Monk...&nbsp; I'd put it into the same category as Tripping, Disarming or Sundering with a Cleaving attack.&nbsp; So long as the character is using the appropriate weapon for the attack (unarmed in this case), I'd let them do it...&nbsp; Of course he'll still incur any penalties or AoOs that the particular form of special attacks require.Personally, I like it when my players try out new and interesting attack options and combinations.&nbsp; Unless the rules expressly forbid it, I try to use the loosest interpretation to give my players the most options.Okay, here's another poser along the same lines...If someone with the Cleave feat is grappling with an oppponent, and drops that opponent, do they get to make an extra Cleave attack against a second opponent?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 1765657, member: 7533"] Alright... Considering how often I have monks in my games, considering how often grappling happens in my games, and considering the typical amount of damage that extra unarmed attack will deal... Eh, it's not really a big enough impact on the game for me to worry about as a DM. So while I now think that you indeed probably have the correct interpretation, I also think that I'd give my players my standard reply to such a rule-question... "Pick one or the other, and we'll use that one always. But remember... Whatever your characters can do, so can the NPCs." Often that's enough to drive them away from an abusive interpretation of the rules. This one I'd definitely allow, and I'd allow it for anyone, not just a Monk... I'd put it into the same category as Tripping, Disarming or Sundering with a Cleaving attack. So long as the character is using the appropriate weapon for the attack (unarmed in this case), I'd let them do it... Of course he'll still incur any penalties or AoOs that the particular form of special attacks require. Personally, I like it when my players try out new and interesting attack options and combinations. Unless the rules expressly forbid it, I try to use the loosest interpretation to give my players the most options. Okay, here's another poser along the same lines... If someone with the Cleave feat is grappling with an oppponent, and drops that opponent, do they get to make an extra Cleave attack against a second opponent? [/QUOTE]

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