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<blockquote data-quote="Parmandur" data-source="post: 9248887" data-attributes="member: 6780330"><p>The TSR numbers appear to he the whole numbers, as far as TSR understoof them in the 90's. As to 5E,I refer to [USER=11365]@Alphastream[/USER] analysis, which Ray Ainninger reaponded to on Twitter by saying that the BookScan numbers were, in fact, incomplete:</p><p></p><p>"There is another source we can use. In 2019, Bloomberg wrote an article about professional DMs. In it, they share sales numbers for the D&D Starter Set. They call these “North America Unit Sales” and provide both a chart and numbers. The table is per year, so we have to add each previous year to find the total to match the BookScan graph. The closest number I could find on the Roll for Combat YouTube video is on Jan 12, 2015, when the Starter had 44,665. Extrapolating from the weekly sales around that time, the end of 2014 has roughly 42,915 sales for the Starter Set. This is 34% of the amount shared on Forbes. If the Forbes data included international sales, it might be a slightly smaller percentage. We could take 34% as an upper bound. In fact, when I try to extrapolate other values, the average I get is actually around 34%."</p><p></p><p>"So, from both the PH reported sales and the Starter Sets on Forbes, we might estimate BookScan is between 23-34% of actual sales. This is, of course, a fallible estimate in the absence of more data."</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://alphastream.org/index.php/2023/10/13/estimating-dds-revenue/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Parmandur, post: 9248887, member: 6780330"] The TSR numbers appear to he the whole numbers, as far as TSR understoof them in the 90's. As to 5E,I refer to [USER=11365]@Alphastream[/USER] analysis, which Ray Ainninger reaponded to on Twitter by saying that the BookScan numbers were, in fact, incomplete: "There is another source we can use. In 2019, Bloomberg wrote an article about professional DMs. In it, they share sales numbers for the D&D Starter Set. They call these “North America Unit Sales” and provide both a chart and numbers. The table is per year, so we have to add each previous year to find the total to match the BookScan graph. The closest number I could find on the Roll for Combat YouTube video is on Jan 12, 2015, when the Starter had 44,665. Extrapolating from the weekly sales around that time, the end of 2014 has roughly 42,915 sales for the Starter Set. This is 34% of the amount shared on Forbes. If the Forbes data included international sales, it might be a slightly smaller percentage. We could take 34% as an upper bound. In fact, when I try to extrapolate other values, the average I get is actually around 34%." "So, from both the PH reported sales and the Starter Sets on Forbes, we might estimate BookScan is between 23-34% of actual sales. This is, of course, a fallible estimate in the absence of more data." [URL unfurl="true"]https://alphastream.org/index.php/2023/10/13/estimating-dds-revenue/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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