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<blockquote data-quote="delph" data-source="post: 8083072" data-attributes="member: 6996123"><p>Nice, but completely wrong.</p><p></p><p>At first something positive</p><p>- I believe when you have Blade ward and HAM, you use at first magic, than HAM, so from 12 dmg you'v got half - 6 dmg, then reduce to 3 dmg.</p><p></p><p>Than many negatives:</p><p>As you describe it, it can be only a Variant human - 4 feats. And use point buy system - STR, CON, CHA 15, other 8. From Racial and one feat incres you will be 16 on all three stats. Ok, but be dumb on dex? you very probably start last, and thats not good. In this "sandpools" It mean you lost your first round with fighter, and you'll get al 6 (or seven) attacks before you start casting your Celestilal... nothing good for you. And when do you use Standard array it stared to be not so strong. (Can got 2 +3 and than only +1, or +3 and two +2)</p><p></p><p>Then I'm wondering why so bad use of ASI - You really need only HA a HAM. Than +2 to STR and you can still take Warcaster or +2 to CON/CHA...</p><p></p><p>But you choose as you choose, so you can cast only with a weapon, or with shield, but no with both. So you will have -2 AC, or cant melee attack (as you write about green flame blade or booming blade).</p><p></p><p>And last, but really important part - You use absolutely wrong described fighter. I't doesnt count with battle master manouvers or eldritch knight. And his feats.</p><p></p><p>Battle master is most favorite choose and best against your sorcerer.</p><p></p><p>here are 2 versions:</p><p>DEX based melee - defensive, use sword and board,feats: defensive duelant, mage slayer, (can use shield master). You are now attacking against 25 AC as well. Will probably start first, </p><p></p><p>STR based - HWFS, HWM, PAM (maybe sentinel), Mage slayer.</p><p></p><p>DEX based ranged -archery style, SS, mageslayer, </p><p></p><p>and if they doesn't use every ASI, there can be magic initiate for hex.... or bless (when you use SS or HWM)</p><p></p><p>So what will be when fighter can start fight? </p><p>attack - hit? you can cast shield, he can use precision manouver, or if still beat it - Tripattack on you it will be not 2d6+ DEX/STR but 2d6+d8 and if he hav hex than 3d6+d8 and thats not so small as you laught. And can its really good chance to knock you prone (than attack with advantage) - if you arn't ranged fighter, than you use SS -5/+10 so it will be 2d6+1d8+10+DEX/STR..</p><p>and you will hit dice to maintain concentration with disadvantage. Have Celestial? Doesn't maintain PUFF.. You do? There are another 5 or 6 attacks...</p><p></p><p>Next attack with advantage? disarming attack - you'v had shield? No you havn't. -2 AC, or magic staff. or any casting focus? No. And again +d8 dmg.</p><p>and again concentration check. with disadvantage. And STR wariors can add -5/+10, so it will be really nasty... </p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p></p><p>trying to cast something? mage slayer - attack from oportunity... trying get out? attack of oportunity... If you use PAM and sentinel, bonus attack, and AoO when you'll come to his reach and stop you (or your celestial)...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't want to say it's really wrong setting, but not so owerhelming about others as you want to say. when you change feats to my suggestion you'll lost the biggest weakness - disadvantage againts mage slayer, or get advantage to others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delph, post: 8083072, member: 6996123"] Nice, but completely wrong. At first something positive - I believe when you have Blade ward and HAM, you use at first magic, than HAM, so from 12 dmg you'v got half - 6 dmg, then reduce to 3 dmg. Than many negatives: As you describe it, it can be only a Variant human - 4 feats. And use point buy system - STR, CON, CHA 15, other 8. From Racial and one feat incres you will be 16 on all three stats. Ok, but be dumb on dex? you very probably start last, and thats not good. In this "sandpools" It mean you lost your first round with fighter, and you'll get al 6 (or seven) attacks before you start casting your Celestilal... nothing good for you. And when do you use Standard array it stared to be not so strong. (Can got 2 +3 and than only +1, or +3 and two +2) Then I'm wondering why so bad use of ASI - You really need only HA a HAM. Than +2 to STR and you can still take Warcaster or +2 to CON/CHA... But you choose as you choose, so you can cast only with a weapon, or with shield, but no with both. So you will have -2 AC, or cant melee attack (as you write about green flame blade or booming blade). And last, but really important part - You use absolutely wrong described fighter. I't doesnt count with battle master manouvers or eldritch knight. And his feats. Battle master is most favorite choose and best against your sorcerer. here are 2 versions: DEX based melee - defensive, use sword and board,feats: defensive duelant, mage slayer, (can use shield master). You are now attacking against 25 AC as well. Will probably start first, STR based - HWFS, HWM, PAM (maybe sentinel), Mage slayer. DEX based ranged -archery style, SS, mageslayer, and if they doesn't use every ASI, there can be magic initiate for hex.... or bless (when you use SS or HWM) So what will be when fighter can start fight? attack - hit? you can cast shield, he can use precision manouver, or if still beat it - Tripattack on you it will be not 2d6+ DEX/STR but 2d6+d8 and if he hav hex than 3d6+d8 and thats not so small as you laught. And can its really good chance to knock you prone (than attack with advantage) - if you arn't ranged fighter, than you use SS -5/+10 so it will be 2d6+1d8+10+DEX/STR.. and you will hit dice to maintain concentration with disadvantage. Have Celestial? Doesn't maintain PUFF.. You do? There are another 5 or 6 attacks... Next attack with advantage? disarming attack - you'v had shield? No you havn't. -2 AC, or magic staff. or any casting focus? No. And again +d8 dmg. and again concentration check. with disadvantage. And STR wariors can add -5/+10, so it will be really nasty... . . . trying to cast something? mage slayer - attack from oportunity... trying get out? attack of oportunity... If you use PAM and sentinel, bonus attack, and AoO when you'll come to his reach and stop you (or your celestial)... I don't want to say it's really wrong setting, but not so owerhelming about others as you want to say. when you change feats to my suggestion you'll lost the biggest weakness - disadvantage againts mage slayer, or get advantage to others. [/QUOTE]
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