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<blockquote data-quote="Zenon" data-source="post: 1260714" data-attributes="member: 352"><p>Ok, I'll throw my opinions in as well:</p><p></p><p>As someone who watched the original, I'll have to say I was surprised how much I liked this new take on it.</p><p></p><p>I believe many of the discussions here so far missed what I thought the major point of the show (so far) was: Responsibility.</p><p></p><p>Adama pointed it out in his speech that humanity didn't take responisbility for creating the Cylons.</p><p></p><p>Apollo blames his father for not taking responsibility for his other son's death (the whole "he wasn't cut out to be a fighter pilot" scene).</p><p></p><p>Baltar not wanting to believe and/or take responsibilty for allowing #6 to access the Defense network (her "your capability for self-deception" comment as the Cylon attack started was great).</p><p></p><p>And I believe the whole "baby killing" scene was meant to show that the Cylons are just like us - IMHO, #6 did not mean to kill the baby. In the beginning of the scene, she seemed facinated by the baby, asked to hold it, talked to the mother about how small and fragile it was, coo'd to it. Not the action of an impersonal machine (remember how she asked the officer on the station to "prove" he was alive? How she claimes to Baltar that she is a woman, not a machine?). But then as the mother is called away for a moment, #6 wonders "how does the neck support all that weight?". Like a child who doesn't know any better she reaches down to play around with it. Snap. Oops. Then she scoots away, not taking responsibilty for it, just like her creators (humans). It's on the look on her face when she ducks away.</p><p></p><p>I've watched kids do the same thing, break something without meaning to and then try to hide the fact. I mean, what did she care, she told the baby he wouldn't have to cry much longer (because she knew the attack was about to begin to wipe out the colonies anyway), so why kill it on purpose?</p><p></p><p>Then we start to have a change in the responsibility theme:</p><p></p><p>The Minister of Education taking charge on the liner. (43rd in line? Wow!)</p><p></p><p>Adama taking charge of the fleet.</p><p></p><p>Colonel Tigh making the hard decision to vacc the compartment to save the Galactica. If he would have given the Chief his "40 seconds" the fire may have reached the fuel storage. It was a tough call, 85 dead. But he took responsibilty for it (after not wanting to take responsibility for starting the fight with Starbuck by pitching the table at her, or taking responsibility for his drinking problem).</p><p></p><p>That's my thoughts at least, I know I'll tune in tonight to check out Part 2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zenon, post: 1260714, member: 352"] Ok, I'll throw my opinions in as well: As someone who watched the original, I'll have to say I was surprised how much I liked this new take on it. I believe many of the discussions here so far missed what I thought the major point of the show (so far) was: Responsibility. Adama pointed it out in his speech that humanity didn't take responisbility for creating the Cylons. Apollo blames his father for not taking responsibility for his other son's death (the whole "he wasn't cut out to be a fighter pilot" scene). Baltar not wanting to believe and/or take responsibilty for allowing #6 to access the Defense network (her "your capability for self-deception" comment as the Cylon attack started was great). And I believe the whole "baby killing" scene was meant to show that the Cylons are just like us - IMHO, #6 did not mean to kill the baby. In the beginning of the scene, she seemed facinated by the baby, asked to hold it, talked to the mother about how small and fragile it was, coo'd to it. Not the action of an impersonal machine (remember how she asked the officer on the station to "prove" he was alive? How she claimes to Baltar that she is a woman, not a machine?). But then as the mother is called away for a moment, #6 wonders "how does the neck support all that weight?". Like a child who doesn't know any better she reaches down to play around with it. Snap. Oops. Then she scoots away, not taking responsibilty for it, just like her creators (humans). It's on the look on her face when she ducks away. I've watched kids do the same thing, break something without meaning to and then try to hide the fact. I mean, what did she care, she told the baby he wouldn't have to cry much longer (because she knew the attack was about to begin to wipe out the colonies anyway), so why kill it on purpose? Then we start to have a change in the responsibility theme: The Minister of Education taking charge on the liner. (43rd in line? Wow!) Adama taking charge of the fleet. Colonel Tigh making the hard decision to vacc the compartment to save the Galactica. If he would have given the Chief his "40 seconds" the fire may have reached the fuel storage. It was a tough call, 85 dead. But he took responsibilty for it (after not wanting to take responsibility for starting the fight with Starbuck by pitching the table at her, or taking responsibility for his drinking problem). That's my thoughts at least, I know I'll tune in tonight to check out Part 2. [/QUOTE]
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