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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6303877" data-attributes="member: 5143">Yes, but even if you cut all that, it would STILL be about 50+ pages just for character creation.  The book is currently 32 pages, so it would still be significantly longer.From everything released so far, it sounds like there is a 64 page adventure and a 32 page rules book.  The rules on all of that stuff HAS to be printed somewhere.  The damage types, conditions, and dying rules really need to be in a player book so that when they cast a spell that applies a condition or are reduced to 0 hitpoints they know what happens to them or the target.Yes, the point of that decision is that they could have made a $30 or $40 product with character creation or a $20 one without it.  If they put character creation in and the set was $40, everyone would be complaining that the price point was too high for a starter product and that no one with a passing interest in the game is going to spend that much money without knowing if they like it or not.If we assume the PHB tells you the rules you need to play the game and the rules you need for character creation...that means that it takes 320 pages and costs $50 dollars for the full rules and character creation rules.  I assume nearly 70% of the book is character creation rules, since that's about what the last 3 PHBs have been.It's a choice.  But it's a choice between reprinting the entire PHB or not.</blockquote>