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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2140903" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey S'mon and Fieari! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This is where the worship points system really shines, because it means the DM perpetually has the players by the cahones, while at the same time not having to crush them to worry them...only squeeze.Another factor is pantheon responsibility (and also portfolio responsibility - although thats a bit more black and white).eg. If you lose the respect of your pantheon you they are less likely to bail you out of Hell when you get captured by a trio of archdevils...*ahem*.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> So you not only have to consider the physical repercussions of battles, but also the sociological repercussions of both your peers and your worshippers.There have been many occasions whereby Thrin has had to circumvent the obvious (combat) to get the desired results. Or spend time maneouvering the opponent into a position where combat became an option.</blockquote>