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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2143704" data-attributes="member: 326">Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> No of course not, but I note you didn't say 1st-level spell...which is when the real magic begins anyway! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />What about an x2 enhanced, x8 empowered shocking grasp for 125d6 electrical damage, thats off the top of my head without even considering min/max capabilities.Yes but with all due respect that rule is as flawed as the improved spell capacity feat and was designed by someone either with a thin grasp of epic gaming or a great love of book keeping.But if it makes you feel any better I can always create a feat that lets you stack metamagic, although I have tested this application of metamagic and it holds up to ANY level...provided you don't use Improved Metamagic and Multispell feats.</blockquote>