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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 2276599" data-attributes="member: 8461">Hey U_K, I just wanted to throw my two cents in. As a generality, I kind of look askance on permanent hit point damage also, but find permanent death easier to deal with.For me, it's a question of what seems fair to the players. Hit points are, relatively speaking, difficult to earn, and when earned a few in number. Losing them in what could be a fairly casual encounter (relatively speaking of course!) seems like it's taking away what the PC's have worked so long so hard for. What's worse is that it can neuter a character rather badly; imagine if someone got wounded down to 3 hp before the monster was slain...would that character be fit for many more high-level games?A contrast here is permanent level loss, which previous editions of the game had; however, that arguement fals apart since the current version of the game made it easier to avoid those (and there were always restoration spells).Permanent death, on the other hand, has much more of a "you knew it was a risk, and took it anyway" feel (which is what I think you're going for with permanent damage). For one thing, permanent death isn't as immediate a threat as permanent damage, since you can always quit the field and heal up - the threat of losing your character is there, but it's remote enough to be thrilling and not terrifying (or worse, driving away your players with a sense of unfairness). Likewise, permanent death has a sense of rightness to it because that's how death really works...in a way it's almost a relief to get away from how easy it is to resurrect a character in D&D. The same isn't said for injuries (since D&D doesn't approximate lost limbs and such).That said, I don't really care if the Bestiary has creatures that do permanent damage, as I trust how you'll do things (it helps that you're adding a way to heal it anyway), and can still see instances where I'd use them on my PC's.</blockquote>

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