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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2322834" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey S'mon! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Standard D&D <strong>is</strong> the very lowest physical/reality factor. </p><p></p><p>A 128 KT explosion only deals 120d6 blast damage. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thats all well and good, but no deity, no group of deities, no overgod, no group of overgods even; is going to be able to create or destroy a planet under the official rules.</p><p></p><p>Also didn't you just get a loan of Wrath of the Immortals? Check out 'Shape Reality' pages 65-67. They had rules for creating galaxies even.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Its not a matter of 'if' PCs can blow up planets its simply a matter of when. If an overgod can create a planet then you have to ask at what point does a mortals power rival an overgods...all power is relative after all.</p><p></p><p>Also its not like 100th-level+ PCs are going to pop up overnight. In fact if anything, in 3rd Edition they are almost never going to happen...as you very well know. The exception being people who simply start their characters at 100th-level just for a laugh, which makes your fears redundant anyway because they could just as easily create characters of 1000th or 10,000th-level if they so wanted.</p><p></p><p>Also Greater Gods in your campaign are 40th-level or thereabouts anyway. Boccob can barely blow up a balloon at that level using the official rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes but the buck stops with me. I explain the esoteric. I explain artifacts.</p><p></p><p>Using the official rules you can't explain the Rain of Colourless Fire even with a Stone of Amplification (Overgod Level Uber-Artifact for anyone reading) and 50 Epic Level Archmages using a ritual with a 100 day casting time (maximum), each using an epic spell slot (max), each burning 10,000 XP (max) and each taking maximum backlash damage. They still couldn't do it! The epic spell DC is in the millions and that was just to affect an empire, not even a continent or a planet. Ironic as it is, nothing truly 'epic' is feasible using the epic rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 2322834, member: 326"] Hey S'mon! :) Standard D&D [B]is[/B] the very lowest physical/reality factor. A 128 KT explosion only deals 120d6 blast damage. :D Thats all well and good, but no deity, no group of deities, no overgod, no group of overgods even; is going to be able to create or destroy a planet under the official rules. Also didn't you just get a loan of Wrath of the Immortals? Check out 'Shape Reality' pages 65-67. They had rules for creating galaxies even. I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Its not a matter of 'if' PCs can blow up planets its simply a matter of when. If an overgod can create a planet then you have to ask at what point does a mortals power rival an overgods...all power is relative after all. Also its not like 100th-level+ PCs are going to pop up overnight. In fact if anything, in 3rd Edition they are almost never going to happen...as you very well know. The exception being people who simply start their characters at 100th-level just for a laugh, which makes your fears redundant anyway because they could just as easily create characters of 1000th or 10,000th-level if they so wanted. Also Greater Gods in your campaign are 40th-level or thereabouts anyway. Boccob can barely blow up a balloon at that level using the official rules. Yes but the buck stops with me. I explain the esoteric. I explain artifacts. Using the official rules you can't explain the Rain of Colourless Fire even with a Stone of Amplification (Overgod Level Uber-Artifact for anyone reading) and 50 Epic Level Archmages using a ritual with a 100 day casting time (maximum), each using an epic spell slot (max), each burning 10,000 XP (max) and each taking maximum backlash damage. They still couldn't do it! The epic spell DC is in the millions and that was just to affect an empire, not even a continent or a planet. Ironic as it is, nothing truly 'epic' is feasible using the epic rules. :D [/QUOTE]
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