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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 2323777" data-attributes="member: 463">&gt;&gt;Ironic that the Bakluni used weapons of Suel construction against the Suel. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&lt;&lt;Who said they were Suel construction?&nbsp; The Fire Rods of Sueloise (named as such in 1e Greyhawk Adventures, not by me) were named such, probably erroneously, by those who discovered them centuries later.&nbsp; Their original name is unknown, but they were most likely crafted by the Bakluni, or discovered by them, or gifted from Incabulos.&gt;&gt;I was always curious how the Invoked Devastation was carried out if the Stone was used for the Rain of Colourless Fire?&lt;&lt;AIR the Invoked Devastation was the primary strike by the Suel which involved merging the Baklunish Empire with Hades; causing it to corrode and be overrun with Hordlings.&nbsp; I believe they used the Bringer of Doom artifact - check the 1e&nbsp; MM2 entry &quot;Hordling&quot;.&nbsp; I'm guessing the Bringer of Doom was a Theorpart, you could always ask EGG.&gt;&gt;Well it 'worked out' because you added an uber artifact (even though it would be classed as a minor artifact because there are dozens of them) to the equation, an artifact that almost certainly no overgod could have created.&lt;&lt;IMC the Stones are Eldren and they have much higher Reality, Physical &amp; Magical factors than the planes of the local Sphere.Obviously the Rain &amp; Devastation were created by EGG, you can ask him how he justifies them in 3e rules if you like.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 2323777, member: 463"] >>Ironic that the Bakluni used weapons of Suel construction against the Suel. :)<< Who said they were Suel construction? The Fire Rods of Sueloise (named as such in 1e Greyhawk Adventures, not by me) were named such, probably erroneously, by those who discovered them centuries later. Their original name is unknown, but they were most likely crafted by the Bakluni, or discovered by them, or gifted from Incabulos. >>I was always curious how the Invoked Devastation was carried out if the Stone was used for the Rain of Colourless Fire?<< AIR the Invoked Devastation was the primary strike by the Suel which involved merging the Baklunish Empire with Hades; causing it to corrode and be overrun with Hordlings. I believe they used the [I]Bringer of Doom [/I] artifact - check the 1e MM2 entry "Hordling". I'm guessing the Bringer of Doom was a Theorpart, you could always ask EGG. >>Well it 'worked out' because you added an uber artifact (even though it would be classed as a minor artifact because there are dozens of them) to the equation, an artifact that almost certainly no overgod could have created.<< IMC the Stones are Eldren and they have much higher Reality, Physical & Magical factors than the planes of the local Sphere. Obviously the Rain & Devastation were created by EGG, you can ask him how he justifies them in 3e rules if you like. :p [/QUOTE]

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