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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 4789204" data-attributes="member: 198">Hah! Nice description. I just found this movie much higher on the dumb.I think that's basically it for me. A lot of that stuff isn't what I liked about Star Trek, plus what I liked about Star Trek watching it in the 80s wouldn't do it for me in 2009.I think it's viable but it didn't do much for me. The 'original' Spock is actually one of the things from TOS that I'd have loved to see again. He was always my favorite character, by far. Kirk never did much for me, nor Bones.The change to Spock also led to one of the things that I thought was a weakness of the movie - even though it tried to do the old logic (Spock) vs. emotion (Kirk) opposition/pairing, it didn't work because Spock wasn't really logical in the movie. One quick example - Spock originally doesn't want Uhura on the Enterprise because it may look like impropriety. The supposedly logical Vulcan is more concerned about appearances rather than the fact that she's competent? Actually having some major (no, the one in the movie doesn't do it for me) plot point being unraveled by her. Think of all the stuff done by female characters (including the ones who don't shoot stuff) on BSG, for example. Now there's a show which handles gender in the future well, and I'm probably spoiled by it because I want to see that kind of quality.You misunderstood me. I don't think there's anything wrong with showing a woman or a man being compassionate. I just didn't think her compassion (which was one of the few things setting her apart from the other characters) was enough to round her out, and I'd say the same if they had shown Bones expressing it. As I said above, it didn't seem that crucial a plot point to me, esp. in comparison to the other stuff that happened in the movie. Her ignoring Kirk's pickup lines was something I liked, unsurprisingly. I'm actually looking forward to seeing if they do anything interesting with her romance with Spock.Sounds interesting. I've seen all of the 1st season, or most of it, but I never know/remember the episode names so I'm not sure which ones those are.</blockquote>

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