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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8687884" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>That bolded bit is telling. And I agree. The real game has been out for years and just got a 2nd Edition last year. This is a secondary game to appeal to 5E players who refuse to try anything but 5E. Which, unfortunately, is quite a lot of them...and, again, unfortunately, they dominate the industry. So if you want to make money in RPGs it's basically 5E or nothing. C7 already made the best game they could for Doctor Who. It's been out for years. It's not selling like they hope...so here we are.</p><p></p><p>That's not generally how these things shake out. The company is stuck. They either change the setting to fit 5E or they change 5E to fit the setting. The whole point is to get 5E-only player sales...so changing 5E to match the setting is a non-starter. Which means they're left with changing the setting to fit the system. And when it comes to licensed properties...where the whole point of picking it up is the setting...that is also a non-starter.</p><p></p><p>C7's other licensed game with a 5E secondary game, TOR and AiME, is a good example. AiME wildly outsold TOR. Because the vast majority of people in the hobby right now want 5E. And that's it. 5E, only 5E, and nothing but 5E. Which is why when most people encountered AiME they looked it over, pulled out the journey rules, and went back to D&D 5E. And even with that little engagement, it still wildly outsold TOR.</p><p></p><p>I expect something similar here. There is likely some neat subsystem that C7 has devised that will be the killer app which people will hack out for parts and port into their D&D 5E games. Likely something to do with social interactions and/or talking your way out of fights. But that's not awesome for people who actually want to play Doctor Who. As I said before, I can't think of a worse system for playing anything like a Doctor Who story than 5E. I honestly hope I'm wrong and C7 has tore 5E down to the foundation and built it back up again to something that can actually work...but again...that character sheet along with class and level are huge red flags.</p><p></p><p>Who's going to want to play a 1st-level Companion when someone else at the table is playing a 20th-level Time Lord? I mean...look around the board. Every third thread is about power gaming, builds, min-maxing, optimization...hell, there are entire boards dedicated to it and there's a subforum for it here. It'll sell to collectors and people who want to hack out a few subsystems. I can't imagine a typical 5E player willingly accepting being a 1st-level nobody at all...to say nothing of being a 1st-level nobody in the same party as a 20th-level Time Lord. The idea is laughable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8687884, member: 86653"] That bolded bit is telling. And I agree. The real game has been out for years and just got a 2nd Edition last year. This is a secondary game to appeal to 5E players who refuse to try anything but 5E. Which, unfortunately, is quite a lot of them...and, again, unfortunately, they dominate the industry. So if you want to make money in RPGs it's basically 5E or nothing. C7 already made the best game they could for Doctor Who. It's been out for years. It's not selling like they hope...so here we are. That's not generally how these things shake out. The company is stuck. They either change the setting to fit 5E or they change 5E to fit the setting. The whole point is to get 5E-only player sales...so changing 5E to match the setting is a non-starter. Which means they're left with changing the setting to fit the system. And when it comes to licensed properties...where the whole point of picking it up is the setting...that is also a non-starter. C7's other licensed game with a 5E secondary game, TOR and AiME, is a good example. AiME wildly outsold TOR. Because the vast majority of people in the hobby right now want 5E. And that's it. 5E, only 5E, and nothing but 5E. Which is why when most people encountered AiME they looked it over, pulled out the journey rules, and went back to D&D 5E. And even with that little engagement, it still wildly outsold TOR. I expect something similar here. There is likely some neat subsystem that C7 has devised that will be the killer app which people will hack out for parts and port into their D&D 5E games. Likely something to do with social interactions and/or talking your way out of fights. But that's not awesome for people who actually want to play Doctor Who. As I said before, I can't think of a worse system for playing anything like a Doctor Who story than 5E. I honestly hope I'm wrong and C7 has tore 5E down to the foundation and built it back up again to something that can actually work...but again...that character sheet along with class and level are huge red flags. Who's going to want to play a 1st-level Companion when someone else at the table is playing a 20th-level Time Lord? I mean...look around the board. Every third thread is about power gaming, builds, min-maxing, optimization...hell, there are entire boards dedicated to it and there's a subforum for it here. It'll sell to collectors and people who want to hack out a few subsystems. I can't imagine a typical 5E player willingly accepting being a 1st-level nobody at all...to say nothing of being a 1st-level nobody in the same party as a 20th-level Time Lord. The idea is laughable. [/QUOTE]
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