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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3265193" data-attributes="member: 11586">Perhaps I am not following your logic, but if you maneuvers are available to you, then you can use them?&nbsp; Especially when they are avaible for immediate use.According to the rule I quoted they areThere is no such thing as their slots being expended.&nbsp; Can you quote me a rule or tell me what page this is on?&nbsp; The only &quot;slots&quot; you have are slots for Readied maneuvers (which you must fill, unlike a Wizard with spell slots, where they can leave some empty).&nbsp; Even if you expend a maneuver, it is still considered readied (please show me where it states it is not), just unavailable for use.&nbsp; Tthis is detailed on page 40, where it states When you initiate a maneuver, it is expended--you can not use it again until you recover it.&nbsp; Then it describes the recovery methods.&nbsp; Since this isn't in dispute, you also have to look at what happens when you Ready maneuvers.&nbsp; One of those things is that you get to pick which maneuvers will be available to you, and as a result of that, they are available for immediate use.No dispute there.&nbsp; They just happen to have the same result.Again, this is not accurate.&nbsp; It does not cause a recovery cycle at all.&nbsp; That is two seperate things.&nbsp; There are rules about recovering maneuvers, and they are rules for when you ready maneuvers.&nbsp; You have to follow them seperately.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3265193, member: 11586"] Perhaps I am not following your logic, but if you maneuvers are available to you, then you can use them? Especially when they are avaible for [i]immediate use[/i]. According to the rule I quoted they are There is no such thing as their slots being expended. Can you quote me a rule or tell me what page this is on? The only "slots" you have are slots for Readied maneuvers (which you must fill, unlike a Wizard with spell slots, where they can leave some empty). Even if you expend a maneuver, it is still considered readied (please show me where it states it is not), just unavailable for use. Tthis is detailed on page 40, where it states [i]When you initiate a maneuver, it is expended--you can not use it again until you recover it[/i]. Then it describes the recovery methods. Since this isn't in dispute, you also have to look at what happens when you Ready maneuvers. One of those things is that you get to pick which maneuvers will be available to you, and as a result of that, they are available for immediate use. No dispute there. They just happen to have the same result. Again, this is not accurate. It does [u]not[/u] cause a recovery cycle at all. That is two seperate things. There are rules about recovering maneuvers, and they are rules for when you ready maneuvers. You have to follow them seperately. [/QUOTE]

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