I agree with the both of you and I do tend to take over in my gamg groups as well, usually not to a great success, lol. Oh the things I have gotten my gorup into, ahh, the joys of chaos. I also think Thane would make a great leader, and my character would make a bad one as she has the potential to fly off the handle. She enjoys things that go boom espeically if she is the one who made it go boom.