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<blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 8216629" data-attributes="member: 4881"><p>I think the biggest problem with "The Brand" of D&D is that to go wide with it you have to have  characters and places and other proper named things for people to hitch their wagon to.  In the 3e era there was some traction with getting some of that name recognition by having the iconic class characters that repeatedly showed up in various places.  I still know Regdar and Linda.</p><p></p><p>With 5e you don't have that....you just have various different pieces of art for whatever page you are reading with no proper names and just sort of a generic set of rules without a baked in setting.</p><p></p><p>This, then, leads you to having to look at an actual campaign setting for those names, and the Forgotten Realms would be the biggest horse in that stable, other than Critical Role for some but I'm assuming that's off the table for use.</p><p></p><p>If they wanted to make "The Brand" of D&D get huge, they would have to tie their cart to FR so hard that to the public D&D would be synonymous with The World of Drizzit and Elminster.</p><p></p><p>That would get the general public on board....and at the same time would honk off all the actual D&D players who hate the FR.</p><p></p><p>In a way I think that Pathfinder might be a better "Brand" as they tied the ruleset to a setting and have been building on the same iconics since it was introduced.  5e doesn't have this.</p><p></p><p>I will sum it up with this anecdote.  I really enjoy boardgames.  I own Lord's of Waterdeep (a super popular boardgame).  I played it with my brother, sister in law, and one of their friends....none of whom have ever thought about playing actual D&D.</p><p></p><p>After the game was completely finished and we were cleaning up I explained to them what Waterdeep was....and that the game we played was set in a world of Dungeons and Dragons.  They had no idea it had anything to do with D&D, and while they liked the game enough to buy their own copy they STILL couldn't name any of the proper names besides Water deep to this day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JiffyPopTart, post: 8216629, member: 4881"] I think the biggest problem with "The Brand" of D&D is that to go wide with it you have to have characters and places and other proper named things for people to hitch their wagon to. In the 3e era there was some traction with getting some of that name recognition by having the iconic class characters that repeatedly showed up in various places. I still know Regdar and Linda. With 5e you don't have that....you just have various different pieces of art for whatever page you are reading with no proper names and just sort of a generic set of rules without a baked in setting. This, then, leads you to having to look at an actual campaign setting for those names, and the Forgotten Realms would be the biggest horse in that stable, other than Critical Role for some but I'm assuming that's off the table for use. If they wanted to make "The Brand" of D&D get huge, they would have to tie their cart to FR so hard that to the public D&D would be synonymous with The World of Drizzit and Elminster. That would get the general public on board....and at the same time would honk off all the actual D&D players who hate the FR. In a way I think that Pathfinder might be a better "Brand" as they tied the ruleset to a setting and have been building on the same iconics since it was introduced. 5e doesn't have this. I will sum it up with this anecdote. I really enjoy boardgames. I own Lord's of Waterdeep (a super popular boardgame). I played it with my brother, sister in law, and one of their friends....none of whom have ever thought about playing actual D&D. After the game was completely finished and we were cleaning up I explained to them what Waterdeep was....and that the game we played was set in a world of Dungeons and Dragons. They had no idea it had anything to do with D&D, and while they liked the game enough to buy their own copy they STILL couldn't name any of the proper names besides Water deep to this day. [/QUOTE]
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