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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7532193" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Note that, by and large, the disconnect is only in rate of gain. Luke and Rey don't display huge abilities you can't imagine, say, Obi Wan being able to use. The real difference is *how fast* they get those powers. In the prequels, a Jedi gets years and years of training to develop their powers. In the original and current trilogy, powers manifest over the course of days. </p><p></p><p>In the tradition of Stan Lee, I offer a "No-Prize" explanation: Luke and Rey are drinking from a fire hose.</p><p></p><p>In the prequels, we have a large Jedi order of Force users. They all draw on the same source of power, and it supports them just fine. Prequel Jedi are like... washing dishes in the kitchen sink.</p><p></p><p>Luke and Rey, however, live in a time with very few Force users. The source of power is largely untapped, and they get to draw on *all of it*. They get to use a pressure washer for the same tasks. To start with, this looks really impressive, but there is little understanding, knowledge, control or finesse to it, which is why Luke can't give Vader a beat-down in ESB. Vader's had a lifetime of training, so the fire hose isn't a direct threat.</p><p></p><p>In addition, the Jedi we see in the prequels are all about *control*. The first thing those Jedi kids learn is probably how to *not* manifest power, to prevent accident and harm. The years of training are then, bit by bit, revealing how to use those powers safely and with finesse. Luke and Rey don't have never been taught how to not manifest their power - when it comes, it comes full bore, without restraint.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7532193, member: 177"] Note that, by and large, the disconnect is only in rate of gain. Luke and Rey don't display huge abilities you can't imagine, say, Obi Wan being able to use. The real difference is *how fast* they get those powers. In the prequels, a Jedi gets years and years of training to develop their powers. In the original and current trilogy, powers manifest over the course of days. In the tradition of Stan Lee, I offer a "No-Prize" explanation: Luke and Rey are drinking from a fire hose. In the prequels, we have a large Jedi order of Force users. They all draw on the same source of power, and it supports them just fine. Prequel Jedi are like... washing dishes in the kitchen sink. Luke and Rey, however, live in a time with very few Force users. The source of power is largely untapped, and they get to draw on *all of it*. They get to use a pressure washer for the same tasks. To start with, this looks really impressive, but there is little understanding, knowledge, control or finesse to it, which is why Luke can't give Vader a beat-down in ESB. Vader's had a lifetime of training, so the fire hose isn't a direct threat. In addition, the Jedi we see in the prequels are all about *control*. The first thing those Jedi kids learn is probably how to *not* manifest power, to prevent accident and harm. The years of training are then, bit by bit, revealing how to use those powers safely and with finesse. Luke and Rey don't have never been taught how to not manifest their power - when it comes, it comes full bore, without restraint. [/QUOTE]
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