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<blockquote data-quote="Kaodi" data-source="post: 7532955" data-attributes="member: 1231"><p>I do not think Kylo Ren counts as Sith. The Sith were an organization of dark force users, not a collection of dark force users. Maybe he will take up the mantle in IX, but unless it is explicit they I would go with, "not a Sith". </p><p></p><p>In any case I think I have a relatively rare criticism of TLJ: it is a whiter movie that TFA. Finn was brutally demoted in TLJ, and Poe just somewhat less so. Their actions literally almost lead to the extermination of the Resistance. That is a big difference from what happened in TFA. Sure Poe was captured and interrogated in TFA but he did not do anything wrong per se. And Finn - he is the first character you meet in this trilogy. He defects, saves Poe, and <em>he faces Kylo Ren with the lightsaber despite not having Force powers</em>. That was epic and meaningful, and his losing did not diminish that in any way.</p><p></p><p>TLJ let them down. Poe had a flyboy moment but that was the same time he let the whole bomber fleet die. And the actually fighting between Finn and Phasma was mercilessly short. That could have and should have been one of the great duels in Star Wars film history, a melee battle between two non-force users. But they did not take advantage of that. </p><p></p><p>The only possibly meaningful thing that came out of their whole arc was the thing with the kids at the stables. And of a black boy, a white girl, and a white boy, who turned out to be the most important one? The white boy. That is what the movie ended on. All the other important stuff was done by Rey, Leia, Luke, Holdo, and Kylo Ren. For all people complain about TLJ being some kind of SJW movie the racial politics of it are actually bantha poodoo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaodi, post: 7532955, member: 1231"] I do not think Kylo Ren counts as Sith. The Sith were an organization of dark force users, not a collection of dark force users. Maybe he will take up the mantle in IX, but unless it is explicit they I would go with, "not a Sith". In any case I think I have a relatively rare criticism of TLJ: it is a whiter movie that TFA. Finn was brutally demoted in TLJ, and Poe just somewhat less so. Their actions literally almost lead to the extermination of the Resistance. That is a big difference from what happened in TFA. Sure Poe was captured and interrogated in TFA but he did not do anything wrong per se. And Finn - he is the first character you meet in this trilogy. He defects, saves Poe, and [I]he faces Kylo Ren with the lightsaber despite not having Force powers[/I]. That was epic and meaningful, and his losing did not diminish that in any way. TLJ let them down. Poe had a flyboy moment but that was the same time he let the whole bomber fleet die. And the actually fighting between Finn and Phasma was mercilessly short. That could have and should have been one of the great duels in Star Wars film history, a melee battle between two non-force users. But they did not take advantage of that. The only possibly meaningful thing that came out of their whole arc was the thing with the kids at the stables. And of a black boy, a white girl, and a white boy, who turned out to be the most important one? The white boy. That is what the movie ended on. All the other important stuff was done by Rey, Leia, Luke, Holdo, and Kylo Ren. For all people complain about TLJ being some kind of SJW movie the racial politics of it are actually bantha poodoo. [/QUOTE]
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