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<blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 8142682" data-attributes="member: 6687260">Lingering injuries + massive damage.&nbsp; There are options in the DMG that somewhat address these (they're not very good, but they're a starting point).&nbsp; Really, these options should have been a lot better so they could be used without having to houserule them into shape, but I really don't think you have ever been able to address injuries with hit points as written.If a first level cleric can heal severe injuries then this has big consequences for the game world that I want to avoidPersonally I make it so that losing more than half your points in a single hit is a roll on the system shock table (add the lower of your Strength or Con to the roll).&nbsp; A total of under 5 is a lingering injury as well as what ever effect is on the table.&nbsp; A natural 1 is always a lingering injury.For linguring injuries I use the table in the DMG, but I make them less severe on the one extreme (I remove the lose an arm or foot option) but more impactful on the other (can only be healed by magic is vague anway but I rule that means a lesser restoration spell).&nbsp; I have them acquired either from System Shock or from being reduced to 0.&nbsp; I also add levels of exhaustion for failing death saves (not from being reduced to 0 - and I make Exhaustion somewhat less crippling -1 to all rolls and -5 speed per level).Yes this is houseruled (although done so using the tools in the DMG), but you've always had to houserule to achieve this.If it didn't seem so necessary before I think it was probably more due to the effects of poison, petrification, negative levels, ability score damage etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Don Durito, post: 8142682, member: 6687260"] Lingering injuries + massive damage. There are options in the DMG that somewhat address these (they're not very good, but they're a starting point). Really, these options should have been a lot better so they could be used without having to houserule them into shape, but I really don't think you have ever been able to address injuries with hit points as written. If a first level cleric can heal severe injuries then this has big consequences for the game world that I want to avoid Personally I make it so that losing more than half your points in a single hit is a roll on the system shock table (add the lower of your Strength or Con to the roll). A total of under 5 is a lingering injury as well as what ever effect is on the table. A natural 1 is always a lingering injury. For linguring injuries I use the table in the DMG, but I make them less severe on the one extreme (I remove the lose an arm or foot option) but more impactful on the other (can only be healed by magic is vague anway but I rule that means a lesser restoration spell). I have them acquired either from System Shock or from being reduced to 0. I also add levels of exhaustion for failing death saves (not from being reduced to 0 - and I make Exhaustion somewhat less crippling -1 to all rolls and -5 speed per level). Yes this is houseruled (although done so using the tools in the DMG), but you've [I]always[/I] had to houserule to achieve this. If it didn't seem so necessary before I think it was probably more due to the effects of poison, petrification, negative levels, ability score damage etc. [/QUOTE]

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