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Message: <blockquote data-quote="XCorvis" data-source="post: 2774088" data-attributes="member: 1265">It does deteriorate for everyone. Sometimes it's just negligable. For instance, I have never worn glasses, but in the last 2-3 years I've noticed that I can't see quite as clearly at long distance as I used to. I'm 26. By all accounts, I still have great eyesight. I don't need glasses for anything, but my wife can see just a bit farther than I can - when she has her glasses on.Anyway, I do like the idea of using CON for spot and listen. To me, it makes at least as much sense as using WIS for it.But on the balance side of things, it makes rogues and fighters even more likely to use WIS as a dump stat, since CON is a better choice for them.</blockquote>