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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 2964955" data-attributes="member: 40961">So, my understanding is,If I cast Dusk and Dawn, granting myself partial concealment relative to all opponents (who don't have darkvision), I still need Hide in Plain Sight if I'm currently being observed.&nbsp; Otherwise, I can attempt to make a bluff check to create a distraction, if successful, I can move around freely within the shadowy illumination, remaining unseen as long as my hide checks are successful.If I am in bright sunlight, and I cast Dancing Shadows, I am completely unseeable.&nbsp; I have total concealment from all opponents.&nbsp; I need not even make hide checks?&nbsp; I am not so sure about this one.&nbsp; The SRD says that total concealment &quot;usually, but not always&quot; makes hide checks unnecessary.&nbsp; I suppose it is up to the DM to decide when this is the case?&nbsp; The SRD says to see the &quot;Special&quot; section below, but that section does not discuss this issue.Also, you can skip the light armor proficiency.&nbsp; As long as you are wearing armor with no armor check penalty, the feat is unnecessary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 2964955, member: 40961"] So, my understanding is, If I cast Dusk and Dawn, granting myself partial concealment relative to all opponents (who don't have darkvision), I still need Hide in Plain Sight if I'm currently being observed. Otherwise, I can attempt to make a bluff check to create a distraction, if successful, I can move around freely within the shadowy illumination, remaining unseen as long as my hide checks are successful. If I am in bright sunlight, and I cast Dancing Shadows, I am completely unseeable. I have total concealment from all opponents. I need not even make hide checks? I am not so sure about this one. The SRD says that total concealment "usually, but not always" makes hide checks unnecessary. I suppose it is up to the DM to decide when this is the case? The SRD says to see the "Special" section below, but that section does not discuss this issue. Also, you can skip the light armor proficiency. As long as you are wearing armor with no armor check penalty, the feat is unnecessary. [/QUOTE]

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