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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3254415" data-attributes="member: 1288">Fair enough. &quot;Lose access to,&quot; instead of just &quot;lose,&quot; certainly works for me.Yep. Page 138, last bullet point, includes Ability Focus and Empower Spell-Like Ability as feats that mysteries cannot benefit from. More to the point, even if a feat is not specifically called out in that section, the implication is pretty heavy that mysteries are affected only by metashadow feats.Well, black fire was really meant to be as much of a &quot;battlefield control&quot; mystery as a &quot;direct offense&quot; mystery. I myself have no problem with the 1d6/2 levels, but it certainly wouldn't be unbalancing to house rule it to 1d4/level. Of course, if you max it out at 5d4, you're technically breaking the pattern of when spells/mysteries of a given level max out, but so what? That's why it's a house rule. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Nope. Black fire isn't phrased as clearly as it could/should be. I don't remember if that's how I wrote it, or if it was tweaked in development, but I'll go ahead and take responsibility for it.When it says &quot;each of your turns,&quot; the &quot;you&quot; it refers to is the shadowcaster. Black fire deals damage to any creatures in the area at the start of the caster's turn, for every round until the duration expires. Thus, saves and damage are applied on your turn, not the enemy's.Oh, I do, too. But the simple truth is, the shadowcaster really isn't meant to be a replacement for a &quot;primary&quot; arcanist. He's sort of a combination of caster, spy, and battlefield control expert. It's just like a party that tries to fill the &quot;arcanist slot&quot; with a bard, or a druid--it can be done, but it won't be as effective.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 3254415, member: 1288"] Fair enough. "Lose access to," instead of just "lose," certainly works for me. Yep. Page 138, last bullet point, includes Ability Focus and Empower Spell-Like Ability as feats that mysteries [i]cannot[/i] benefit from. More to the point, even if a feat is not specifically called out in that section, the implication is pretty heavy that mysteries are affected [i]only[/i] by metashadow feats. Well, [i]black fire[/i] was really meant to be as much of a "battlefield control" mystery as a "direct offense" mystery. I myself have no problem with the 1d6/2 levels, but it certainly wouldn't be unbalancing to house rule it to 1d4/level. Of course, if you max it out at 5d4, you're technically breaking the pattern of when spells/mysteries of a given level max out, but so what? That's why it's a house rule. ;) Nope. [i]Black fire[/i] isn't phrased as clearly as it could/should be. I don't remember if that's how I wrote it, or if it was tweaked in development, but I'll go ahead and take responsibility for it. When it says "each of your turns," the "you" it refers to is the shadowcaster. [i]Black fire[/i] deals damage to any creatures in the area at the start of the [i]caster's[/i] turn, for every round until the duration expires. Thus, saves and damage are applied on your turn, not the enemy's. Oh, I do, too. But the simple truth is, the shadowcaster really isn't [i]meant[/i] to be a replacement for a "primary" arcanist. He's sort of a combination of caster, spy, and battlefield control expert. It's just like a party that tries to fill the "arcanist slot" with a bard, or a druid--it [i]can[/i] be done, but it won't be as effective. [/QUOTE]

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