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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8023013" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Sure if you hone in on a single area of complexity.  IMO, it's not just the number of options but how complex each of those options are.  Some points:1.  Why would we expect them to hit level 9 with pregen characters.  I'd think somewhere between level 3-5 would be the end of the pregen campaign.2.  Bards get a ton of non-spellcasting features to increase their complexity.3.  Healing and direct damage spells are very straightforward to pick up on.  Control spells and buff/debuff spells make things alot more complicated.  Bards better spells tend to be control type spells with very little direct damage and without obvious additional benefits.  Take dissonant whispers for example.  We all know that's to generate OA's.  I'm not sure that tactic would even cross a new players mind with it.  Essentially the kinds of spells the Bard excels at are much more complex than the kinds of spells the life cleric excels at.4.  Bards are very squishy which tends to require alot firmer grasp about what is truly dangerous and how to position yourself to not be in harms way.  Essentially, playing a bard effectively is alot more complex a process than playing a life cleric efficiently.5.  This is related to a different kind of complexity but is a very important point, D&D Bards don't hearken back to any fantasy trope they may already be familiar with which makes getting into such a pregen character quite a bit harder IMO.At level 5 a bard knows 8 spells a cleric knows 14 spells.  The clerics can be mostly very straightforward.  The bards can be much more complex.  The bard has a ton of features that add complexity.  The life cleric has his channel divinity which is healing, so pretty straightforward.</blockquote>

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