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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SKyOdin" data-source="post: 5388652" data-attributes="member: 57939">Actually, no. I am strongly opposed to the idea of an Immortial Tier above Epic Tier. If you make a new Tier for that level of play, it would completely steal the role that Epic was intended to fulfill and further confuse and dilute the flavor of the various tiers. I don't think an Immortial Tier is needed because it would be fulfilling the exact role that Epic should be filling right now.That is just a list of famous or legendary heroes. I don't at all agree that many of them qualify as being Epic heroes. I would peg Achilles, Arthur, Beowulf, and Cu Chulainn as excellent examples of Paragon Tier heroes, actually. Those four are all heroes whose abilities are such that they can affect the fate of nations. Conan might just be a Heroic Tier hero, depending on author.Rama on the other hand, is an example of an Epic Tier hero, and you can clearly see a big difference between the Ramayana and some of the stories the others are from. Rama's opponents are the Rakshasas, lead by Ravana and his family, who by the start of Rama's journey, had already laid siege to the home of the gods and defeated them in battle. At the same time, Rama's companions include Hanuman, a demigod monkey who rips a mountain off of its foundation at one point.I think that there is a risk in making Epic levels heroes too weak and small in scale, because the Epic tier would then be leeching away the awesomeness of Paragon Tier heroes, who still deserve their credit.</blockquote>

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