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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 5392108" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Several people have mentioned concerns with the planar centric nature of epic level, as far as the monsters and the like. That it pulls away from the core campaign setting created over the last 20 levels.</p><p></p><p>I think there is a way around that if you wish...bring the extra planar home.</p><p></p><p>Instead of having the PCs journey to the planes, have extra planar creatures start coming into their yard and messing things up.</p><p></p><p>The only real question you have to answer is...why now? Why are these epic bad guys suddenly showing up just as the party hits 21st? There are a few ways to answer that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1) The villian did it. Whatever your paragon villains machinations, it has drawn the attention of even worse evil. You may defeat the villain, but his legacy lives on.</p><p></p><p>2) The players did it. Either them stopping something caused something worse to happen, or the fact that they are gaining epic power is causing extra planar forces to take notice. If your campaign has never seen an epic level person....the fact that the PCs have hit that level may indicate something special is going on in that world that the extraplanar forces want a part of.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What makes this idea a good backdrop for an epic game is you get to utilize the superman plotline. Superman is nigh invincible....but his loved ones are not. The players can laugh death in the face...but their friends can't.</p><p></p><p>That puts a lot of the pressure right on the PCs. They will survive what's coming if they choose to leave...but their home may very well be wiped out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 5392108, member: 5889"] Several people have mentioned concerns with the planar centric nature of epic level, as far as the monsters and the like. That it pulls away from the core campaign setting created over the last 20 levels. I think there is a way around that if you wish...bring the extra planar home. Instead of having the PCs journey to the planes, have extra planar creatures start coming into their yard and messing things up. The only real question you have to answer is...why now? Why are these epic bad guys suddenly showing up just as the party hits 21st? There are a few ways to answer that. 1) The villian did it. Whatever your paragon villains machinations, it has drawn the attention of even worse evil. You may defeat the villain, but his legacy lives on. 2) The players did it. Either them stopping something caused something worse to happen, or the fact that they are gaining epic power is causing extra planar forces to take notice. If your campaign has never seen an epic level person....the fact that the PCs have hit that level may indicate something special is going on in that world that the extraplanar forces want a part of. What makes this idea a good backdrop for an epic game is you get to utilize the superman plotline. Superman is nigh invincible....but his loved ones are not. The players can laugh death in the face...but their friends can't. That puts a lot of the pressure right on the PCs. They will survive what's coming if they choose to leave...but their home may very well be wiped out. [/QUOTE]
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