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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8475430" data-attributes="member: 7026617">I'm going to correct my post here, because I went back and looked and it was a post Graham made, where he referenced other GM's using the fact of rules being written as an excuse to absolve themselves of the fiction making sense (this is post #56 if people want to go back and see the original context; I have no interest in misrepresenting what someone has said here). What I'm thoroughly disagreeing on is that this somehow let's them off the hook, which is what I've argued.  There are some sound sub-arguments in the ensuing responses (yes, people have a tendency to just move along rather than do rules work on the fly) but they don't seem to actually make the case that this is a worse result than can occur from making decisions entirely on the fly (where the GM is just as prone to not wanting to argue his decision on the fly will be likely to move on for the same pace-related reasons, which I've also seen over the years). It still adds up to acting like a GM is suddenly incapable of making a rules decision when they notice the rules produce a bad result just because the result actually emerges from the written rules. I have little sign that a GM who binds themselves that way is going to suddenly make better decisions because they had no rules in the first place.Now you point about the Rolemaster round cycle (and I believe the one you made earlier about what we called the three-legged race when we've discussed this in the past, since its a thing that can come up pretty dramatically in superhero games) is sound, but it still requires me to assume this sort of thing is somehow more intrusive more often than failures of agreement between the GM and players or between multiple players in expectations of how on how the fiction should result.  This is immensely counter to my experience, which is why I say elsewhere in this thread that there's a gap in experiences when this topic comes up that mostly can't be crossed.</blockquote>

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